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mixtrak

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Can someone explain duels?
« on: February 28, 2017, 08:52:44 pm »

I see duels in battles in legends mode. What are these, exactly? What triggers them? Do they have any effect on the battle - i.e. do leaders duel for victory as a proxy for all-out warfare?
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Re: Can someone explain duels?
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2017, 09:16:20 am »

Duels only happen during world-gen, either during wars or when someone fights a megabeast/night creature/other great beast.

I recall hearing somewhere that world-gen wars are actually done as a series of one-on-one fights between all participants; only when one or two noteworthy historical figures fight does Legends call it a "duel" and record it specially.

I don't know if a battle can be determined on a single duel - I saw once where two armies had the same number and kind of troops and the same number of deaths, but the defending general successfully dueled the attacking general, and the battle was won by the defenders. That could easily have been coincidence, though.

In any case, "duels" as such never happen in Fortress Mode, AFAIK.
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Re: Can someone explain duels?
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2017, 01:44:25 pm »

Duels only happen during world-gen, either during wars or when someone fights a megabeast/night creature/other great beast.

They can also happen in real-time while you play now.  I had a marksdwarf become Queen-by-polite-discussion about 4-5 years into a fort, and when I loaded up Legends found that the King had just died to a duel with a goblin champion, a 12 year old human boy, when the goblins invaded the Mountainhome.

So duels can happen in Fortress Mode jsut not at your fort, AFAIK.
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Re: Can someone explain duels?
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2017, 08:44:49 pm »


I recall hearing somewhere that world-gen wars are actually done as a series of one-on-one fights between all participants; only when one or two noteworthy historical figures fight does Legends call it a "duel" and record it specially.
It's actually more like...
Both armies each stand in a single line, and the dudes at the front of each line fight each other. When someone dies, they leave the line and the next person in line fights the person at the front of the other line. So it's entirely possible, but incredibly unlikely, for two armies to clash, but only one soldier from the winning army to ever do any actual fighting.
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Re: Can someone explain duels?
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2017, 10:05:48 am »


I recall hearing somewhere that world-gen wars are actually done as a series of one-on-one fights between all participants; only when one or two noteworthy historical figures fight does Legends call it a "duel" and record it specially.
It's actually more like...
Both armies each stand in a single line, and the dudes at the front of each line fight each other. When someone dies, they leave the line and the next person in line fights the person at the front of the other line. So it's entirely possible, but incredibly unlikely, for two armies to clash, but only one soldier from the winning army to ever do any actual fighting.
That's why goblins win so many times wars then?

I recall hearing somewhere that world-gen wars are actually done as a series of one-on-one fights between all participants; only when one or two noteworthy historical figures fight does Legends call it a "duel" and record it specially.
It's actually more like...
Both armies each stand in a single line, and the dudes at the front of each line fight each other. When someone dies, they leave the line and the next person in line fights the person at the front of the other line. So it's entirely possible, but incredibly unlikely, for two armies to clash, but only one soldier from the winning army to ever do any actual fighting.
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Re: Can someone explain duels?
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2017, 11:01:02 pm »

That's why goblins win so many times wars then?

Sometimes, yes. If they have a demon leading them, it often kills the whole enemy army by itself.
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Re: Can someone explain duels?
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2017, 11:22:55 pm »

That's why goblins win so many times wars then?

Sometimes, yes. If they have a demon leading them, it often kills the whole enemy army by itself.
And sometimes the demon gets kicked by a camel...
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Re: Can someone explain duels?
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2017, 02:43:26 pm »

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