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[Devastator]

Almost got it.  One more crack at it.

Spoiler:  Big Ears, White (click to show/hide)

Strength: 10
Dexterity: 14
Endurance: 11
Mind: 7
Speed: 11
HP 6/6
Armour 5/5
Lives, 5/6

Skills:
SMG: 14
Spear: 9

Magic Stats.
Neon: 12

Items
Heavy SMG.  (7 bursts)
Flag Pole Spear.
Bulletproof Vest.
30 dolla

Ammo:
Idolize x1
2x Rifle.

[piecewise]

A ranged attack while I was right next to it? How does that work?

Can you shoot someone who is standing right next to you? Well, so can he.

[syvarris]

((There should really be SOME benefit to using melee against a ranged enemy, though.  At the very least you should be able to roll dodge, because avoiding a rifle that's within arm's reach isn't too dissimilar from avoiding a spear at that range.  Beyond that, melee items do less damage than ranged, are obviously much shorter ranged, are always dodgeable, and can't overwatch as well.  Their only advantages are a lack of ammo consumption (which is insignificant if only one team member is melee), and being mitigated by dodge rather than cover (which doesn't matter unless enemies follow a logic of skill distribution similar to players).

Really, not only should ranged attacks in melee be dodgable, they should either take penalties or provoke something like an attack of opportunity.  Retreating from a melee enemy should also be penalized, either requiring a full turn or provoking a free attack.))

[Egan_BW]

((Guns are better at melee range than melee weapons are, because if you're at point-blank it's impossible for your target to be in cover from you.))

[piecewise]

((There should really be SOME benefit to using melee against a ranged enemy, though.  At the very least you should be able to roll dodge, because avoiding a rifle that's within arm's reach isn't too dissimilar from avoiding a spear at that range.  Beyond that, melee items do less damage than ranged, are obviously much shorter ranged, are always dodgeable, and can't overwatch as well.  Their only advantages are a lack of ammo consumption (which is insignificant if only one team member is melee), and being mitigated by dodge rather than cover (which doesn't matter unless enemies follow a logic of skill distribution similar to players).

Really, not only should ranged attacks in melee be dodgable, they should either take penalties or provoke something like an attack of opportunity.  Retreating from a melee enemy should also be penalized, either requiring a full turn or provoking a free attack.))

We can make such things possible, but only if they apply universally, both to players and enemies. I just figured that people would prefer that being directly next to someone with a shotgun would not actually give you LESS of a chance to hit than if you were farther back.

Realistic though that might be.

We're not going into Combat mode yet because the Syth elemental hasn't seen anyone but Egan, who just got corpsed. But you guys are still actively in danger so He doesn't respawn yet. Figure out someway to deal with this.

Welp.  Cover-Move to the doorway just to my north (not the one the speakerskull can see), and overwatch.

Spoiler: syvarris, the neon-steel sniper (click to show/hide)

STR  1 (+0 melee damage)
DEX  1 (-6 to aim)
END  18 (13 HP)
MIND 18 (+4 slots)
SPD  10 (+0 init.  5 move speed.)

Neon  - 12
Steel - 12
Rifle - 15
Cover - 16

Inventory (6/6):
Sniper Rifle 4/5, 2d12
Backpack
Blood Bag
Flashlight
Rope (100')
A few severed heads (These don't count as ammo, I assume)

$150
Glimmer
Burn
Burn
3 Shotgun Shells (Being given to MJ)
1 Molotov Cocktail

HP: 10/13
Armor: 0/0
Magic Slots: 6
Idolize
Glimmer
Sharpen
Break
Ricochet

Lives: 6
Idol HP: 5/5

Move to the highlighted square. Overwatch.
((Assuming I'm still alive next turn, would Run & Gun allow me to go through the door, shoot the sythfungus and run back out? Also, if I use Aim and Overwatch, overwatch fire get the aim bonus?))

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Stats
Strength: 7 (+0 Melee Damage, 3 Armor Capacity, 7 Inventory Spaces)
Dexterity: 15 (+5 Aim)
Endurance: 10 (5 HP)
Mind: 10 (2 Magic Slots)
Speed: 14 (+4 Initiative, 9 Movement)

Skills
Pistol: 5
Rifle: 10
Cover: 5

Inventory (2/7):
Hunting Rifle 7/8, 2d6
Bullet Proof Vest 5/5 (but Armor Capacity is 3)
2 pistol rounds

HP: 5/5
Armor: 3/3
Lives: 5/6

((Uh, yeah I suppose? But why would you want to when you could just shoot from back in the doorway? Yeah, it would, but why use overwatch instead of just aiming and then shooting?))

Almost got it.  One more crack at it.

Spoiler:  Big Ears, White (click to show/hide)

Strength: 10
Dexterity: 14
Endurance: 11
Mind: 7
Speed: 11
HP 6/6
Armour 5/5
Lives, 5/6

Skills:
SMG: 14
Spear: 9

Magic Stats.
Neon: 12

Items
Heavy SMG.  (7 bursts)
Flag Pole Spear.
Bulletproof Vest.
30 dolla

Ammo:
Idolize x1
2x Rifle.

[11/10] Strength
You bash the door the rest of the way down, though only barely. The room beyond is a perfectly square bathroom. Its very...white. There's white tile on the floor, walls, and ceiling; even the lights are square and fit perfectly in the spaces between the tiles so that they might be mistaken for oddly luminous tiles. There is a bathtub/ shower combo in the back and a toilet off to the left. No sink though, oddly. Against the very back wall is an open door leading into a linen closet.

Empi, from your position at the doorway there you can see the Synth elemental sort of staring quizically at the blood smear that used to be Egan and has not moved.

[Devastator]

Run the shower.  The noise should help interfere with the synth elemental.  Or attract it.  Search the toilet tank as well.

Spoiler:  Big Ears, White (click to show/hide)

Strength: 10
Dexterity: 14
Endurance: 11
Mind: 7
Speed: 11
HP 6/6
Armour 5/5
Lives, 5/6

Skills:
SMG: 14
Spear: 9

Magic Stats.
Neon: 12

Items
Heavy SMG.  (7 bursts)
Flag Pole Spear.
Bulletproof Vest.
30 dolla

Ammo:
Idolize x1
2x Rifle.

[Egan_BW]

((There should really be SOME benefit to using melee against a ranged enemy, though.  At the very least you should be able to roll dodge, because avoiding a rifle that's within arm's reach isn't too dissimilar from avoiding a spear at that range.  Beyond that, melee items do less damage than ranged, are obviously much shorter ranged, are always dodgeable, and can't overwatch as well.  Their only advantages are a lack of ammo consumption (which is insignificant if only one team member is melee), and being mitigated by dodge rather than cover (which doesn't matter unless enemies follow a logic of skill distribution similar to players).

Really, not only should ranged attacks in melee be dodgable, they should either take penalties or provoke something like an attack of opportunity.  Retreating from a melee enemy should also be penalized, either requiring a full turn or provoking a free attack.))

We can make such things possible, but only if they apply universally, both to players and enemies. I just figured that people would prefer that being directly next to someone with a shotgun would not actually give you LESS of a chance to hit than if you were farther back.

Realistic though that might be.

Well, I bloody well would appreciate if you made my chosen build not-totally-useless. Why did you even include melee weapons if guns do everything they do, but better?

[piecewise]

((There should really be SOME benefit to using melee against a ranged enemy, though.  At the very least you should be able to roll dodge, because avoiding a rifle that's within arm's reach isn't too dissimilar from avoiding a spear at that range.  Beyond that, melee items do less damage than ranged, are obviously much shorter ranged, are always dodgeable, and can't overwatch as well.  Their only advantages are a lack of ammo consumption (which is insignificant if only one team member is melee), and being mitigated by dodge rather than cover (which doesn't matter unless enemies follow a logic of skill distribution similar to players).

Really, not only should ranged attacks in melee be dodgable, they should either take penalties or provoke something like an attack of opportunity.  Retreating from a melee enemy should also be penalized, either requiring a full turn or provoking a free attack.))

We can make such things possible, but only if they apply universally, both to players and enemies. I just figured that people would prefer that being directly next to someone with a shotgun would not actually give you LESS of a chance to hit than if you were farther back.

Realistic though that might be.

Well, I bloody well would appreciate if you made my chosen build not-totally-useless. Why did you even include melee weapons if guns do everything they do, but better?

Fair.

Would everyone be ok with me just saying you CAN'T shoot if they're directly next to you? So that charging into someone's face is semi-viable?

[Egan_BW]

Can't fire a gun at point-blank unless it's something compact like a pistol or sawn-off. If you do use something like that, the target can dodge.

[piecewise]

Sounds fair to me and gives people a reason to use something like a pistol or sawn off over other things. How about this

Directly adjacent: melee only
One space: small guns and thrown ok, large guns have +3 difficulty to hit. Use of dodge to get out of the way is possible.
Two space: Normal rules.

[Tomasque]

Sounds fair to me and gives people a reason to use something like a pistol or sawn off over other things. How about this

Directly adjacent: melee only
One space: small guns and thrown ok, large guns have +3 difficulty to hit. Use of dodge to get out of the way is possible.
Two space: Normal rules.

 

[Shadowclaw777]

Sounds fair to me and gives people a reason to use something like a pistol or sawn off over other things. How about this

Directly adjacent: melee only
One space: small guns and thrown ok, large guns have +3 difficulty to hit. Use of dodge to get out of the way is possible.
Two space: Normal rules.

How about same rules but if you are directly adjacent than you get the +3 difficulty with small guns but can still use them. Sorry just on the waitlist waiting for some people to die 

[Empiricist]

Run & Gun. Run into the kitchen, while passing the doorway shoot at the synthfungus and insult its mother while I'm at it.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Stats
Strength: 7 (+0 Melee Damage, 3 Armor Capacity, 7 Inventory Spaces)
Dexterity: 15 (+5 Aim)
Endurance: 10 (5 HP)
Mind: 10 (2 Magic Slots)
Speed: 14 (+4 Initiative, 9 Movement)

Skills
Pistol: 5
Rifle: 10
Cover: 5

Inventory (2/7):
Hunting Rifle 7/8, 2d6
Bullet Proof Vest 5/5 (but Armor Capacity is 3)
2 pistol rounds

HP: 5/5
Armor: 3/3
Lives: 5/6

[AzyWng]

Just a passing question, how long does a weapon switch take?

What category would melee bashing/pistol whipping fall into?

[Tomasque]

Sorry just on the waitlist waiting for some people to die 

Yup. In all sincerity, I'm privately hoping they get slaughtered.