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[Toaster]

A roguelike, hosted by PW, with XCOM-ish rules?  Color me interested.

Spoiler: Rowdy Roo (click to show/hide)

Name:  Rowdy Roo!
Description:  Not very attractive and kind of churlish; someone no one will miss.

Stats:
Str 8
Dex 16
End 9
Mnd 9
Spd 11

Skills:
SMG 20
Cover 15

Inventory:
Heavy SMG
BP Vest
Premium Ammo

HP: 4/4
Move: 6
Spells: 0/2
Armor: 4

[syvarris]

Well, that was straightforward.  Kill bonus into ammo, keep watchful for danger.

Spoiler: syvarris, the neon-steel sniper (click to show/hide)

STR  1
DEX  1 (-6 to aim)
END  18 (13 HP)
MIND 18 (6 slots)
SPD  10 (No Init bonus/penalty.  5 move speed)

Neon  - 12
Steel - 12
Rifle - 15
Cover - 16  (Forgot to swap the points before.)

Inventory (5/6):
Sniper Rifle 3/5, 2d12
Backpack
Blood Bag
Flashlight
Rope (100')
$150

Glimmer
Burn
Burn

HP: 13/13
Armor: 0/0
Magic Slots: 6
Idolize
Idolize
Glimmer
Sharpen
Break
Ricochet

((@Toaster, skills cost 2, not 1.  Also, you can only have 4 armor, since armor caps at 50% of str.))

[MidnightJaguar]

use my blood bag and heal up.

Spoiler: Ferrus (click to show/hide)

Stats:
Strength: 5-4(missing arm)=1 (+50)
Dexterity: 5 (+50)
Endurance: 13 (-30)
Mind: 16 (-60)
Speed: 11 (-10)

Skills:


Shotgun: 14 (-28)
Cover 11 (-22)

Magic Skills:
Blood: 13 (-26)
Chrome 11 (-22)


Health: 3/8


Gear:

Blood bag

pump shotgun  5/5 1d4 x 6, pellet roll of less than 10 on 3d6

slotted cards 3/4
Pressure x1
Apoptosis x1
Block x1
Pathx1

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[Toaster]

((@Toaster, skills cost 2, not 1.  Also, you can only have 4 armor, since armor caps at 50% of str.))

((Well, that was a big misread.  I think I fixed it, but I could always use a double check.))

[ATHATH]

It's yo' boi with another cheesy build!

Spoiler: Still Not As Much Health As Control Warrior (click to show/hide)

Name: The Ultimate Tank
HP: 1
Armor: 5
Speed: 3
Strength: 16
Dexterity: 1
Endurance: 1
Magic: 18
Speed: 10

Skills:
Chainsaw: 16
Steel: 16

Starting Cash (before going on shopping spree): (156 x 300) + 2000 = $48,200 (!!!)
Expenses: 1000 + 500 + 100 + 14,500 + 25,600 + 6,400 = $48,100
Remaining Cash: $100
Inventory:
Chainsaw (1000)
Bulletproof Vest (500)
Flashlight (100)
Backpack x29 (14,500)
Premium Magic Pack x64 (25,600)
Pistol x65 (6,400)
Pistol Ammo x650 (free with pistols, stacked into one item)

Prepare the following spells, if I get them (spoiler alert: I will (unless I'm incredibly unlucky)):
Spell Loadout: Guard x3 (just in case a crit-fail DOESN'T destroy all of my bullets or something), Ricochet x3

Upon entering the dungeon, immediately drop 61 (I'll keep 4 pistols in reserve, just in case) of my pistols on the ground to clear up some inventory space. Don my bulletproof vest. Cast Ricochet 3 times to give myself more bullets. Cast Guard (repeat it multiple times if necessary) on one of my remaining pistols to effectively give myself 650 extra health, plus however many bullets Ricochet created. Go look for things to smash with my chainsaw.

I suspect that this build will get wrecked when it crit-fails a Guard or Ricochet roll and destroys all of its bullets or something, but it'll be cool while it lasts/until it's nerfed/until I'm corrected and it turns out that this build never worked in the first place.

Oh, and bonus points: I think that the Guard spell persists between floors, meaning that I can prepare Ricochet 6 times per floor instead of one, and thus regen 6x or so the "HP".

[ATHATH]

Optimization for the Optimization God! Cheese for the Cheese Throne!

Spoiler: Free Money (click to show/hide)

Name: Johnny Cash
HP: 1
Armor: 0
Speed: 1
Stats:
Strength: 1
Agility: 1
Endurance: 1
Magic: 1
Speed: 1

Starting Cash: $167,000
Expenses: $0
Remaining Cash: $167,000

Inventory: None

Bludgeon myself to death with/against a nearby wall 6 times. Become an enemy. Get wrecked. Let my former companions loot my stupid amounts of money off of my corpse.

[Toaster]

((Guard ends when you reload.  Otherwise, that's pretty funny

EDIT:  It's not outright stated, but I would assume Guard implies you lose bullets in the mag, not in your inventory.  Otherwise the reload clause doesn't really make much sense.))

[Egan_BW]

((Also still won't help you when I cut your head off.))

[Egan_BW]

+1 armor from kill!
Take a quick scan of the room to make sure it's safe before going in. Yank my knife out of shotgun lady's corpse. Is it still usable?
Take any loot from the bodies, and any loot in the room, and set it on one of the tables so we can split it fairly.

Spoiler: name? what are u, casul? (click to show/hide)

Lives: 6/6
HP: 5/5
Armor: 1/8
Movement: 5
Attunement slots: 0

Stats:
Strength: 16 (+6 melee damage, 16 carrying capacity, 8 max armor)
Dexterity: 6 (-4 to aim, 1 SMG die)
Endurance: 10 (5 HP)
Mind: 6 (0 attunement slots)
Speed: 10 (5 Movement, +0 Initiative)

Skills:
Club: 14
Thrown: 13
Dodge: 20
Cover: 13

Gear: $350

Nail Bat $550
Throwing Knife x19 $1000
Flashlight $100

[ATHATH]

((Guard ends when you reload.  Otherwise, that's pretty funny

EDIT:  It's not outright stated, but I would assume Guard implies you lose bullets in the mag, not in your inventory.  Otherwise the reload clause doesn't really make much sense.))

Still, being able to have 10 HP (more if you choose a different weapon) above your maximum 6 times per floor is preeeeetty good.

[syvarris]

Spoiler: @ATHATH (click to show/hide)

Huh.  I had not considered dropping stats to buy more magic.  35 spells per stat point is pretty abusable, and probably worth a single HP.  Clever.

I do doubt backpacks and guard work like that, however.  The former really doesn't make sense to stack with itself, and the latter specifies that you must be wielding the gun; while you miiight be able to dual-wield a pistol and chainsaw, I highly doubt you can wield three pistols at the same time.  As Toaster pointed out, the guard spell only works with bullets loaded in the weapon, so that gives you a hard cap of 20 bonus HP at a time, assuming you're also wielding the chainsaw.  Of course, you can swap out to backup guard pistols, but I can't see how that wouldn't cost an action, which a melee character can't really afford.

Finally, that char has no ability to dodge or cover whatsoever, so it'll soak a lot of damage.  In this system, it really wouldn't be unbelieveable for that character to soak 26 damage in a turn, which will kill it even with a critical guard pistol.

This is actually a flaw even if backpacks and guard do work like you assume--while you start quite tough, on average you need to make $10 for every damage you take, not including the cost of guard spells (~$2880?), and assuming more pistols are the most efficient source of pistol ammo.  Since a kill gives ~$30, you need to take less than three damage from each guy you kill, which will be difficult since you have no dodge or cover whatsoever.  Of course, you have a large amount of reserve HP to start with, so you'll be able to get levelups and increase your efficiency, but you're also starting significantly behind the power curve due to all the points you spent on money in chargen.

Also, ricochet is essentially worthless for you.  Get flicker, so the chainsaw's more useful.

[ATHATH]

Spoiler: @ATHATH (click to show/hide)

Huh.  I had not considered dropping stats to buy more magic.  35 spells per stat point is pretty abusable, and probably worth a single HP.  Clever.

I do doubt backpacks and guard work like that, however.  The former really doesn't make sense to stack with itself, and the latter specifies that you must be wielding the gun; while you miiight be able to dual-wield a pistol and chainsaw, I highly doubt you can wield three pistols at the same time.  As Toaster pointed out, the guard spell only works with bullets loaded in the weapon, so that gives you a hard cap of 20 bonus HP at a time, assuming you're also wielding the chainsaw.  Of course, you can swap out to backup guard pistols, but I can't see how that wouldn't cost an action, which a melee character can't really afford.

Finally, that char has no ability to dodge or cover whatsoever, so it'll soak a lot of damage.  In this system, it really wouldn't be unbelieveable for that character to soak 26 damage in a turn, which will kill it even with a critical guard pistol.

This is actually a flaw even if backpacks and guard do work like you assume--while you start quite tough, on average you need to make $10 for every damage you take, not including the cost of guard spells (~$2880?), and assuming more pistols are the most efficient source of pistol ammo.  Since a kill gives ~$30, you need to take less than three damage from each guy you kill, which will be difficult since you have no dodge or cover whatsoever.  Of course, you have a large amount of reserve HP to start with, so you'll be able to get levelups and increase your efficiency, but you're also starting significantly behind the power curve due to all the points you spent on money in chargen.

Also, ricochet is essentially worthless for you.  Get flicker, so the chainsaw's more useful.

Ricochet makes bullets/health, though.

Also, the document never said anything about using Dexterity to dodge stuff. As far as I can tell, it just affects aim.

[Egan_BW]

Dexterity doesn't help you dodge. Dodge does. You have none of it.

[ATHATH]

Dexterity doesn't help you dodge. Dodge does. You have none of it.

I could invest in some, I suppose.

Also, I could maybe use duct tape or something to hold the pistols together, or get some kind of expanded magazine or something.

[Empiricist]

Wait for the others to enter the room, if it's safe, then take cover to the left of the fridge.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Stats
Strength: 7 (+0 Melee Damage, 3 Armor Capacity, 7 Inventory Spaces)
Dexterity: 15 (+5 Aim)
Endurance: 10 (5 HP)
Mind: 10 (2 Magic Slots)
Speed: 14 (+4 Initiative, 9 Movement)

Skills
Pistol: 5
Rifle: 10
Cover: 5

Inventory (2/7):
Hunting Rifle 7/8, 2d6
Bullet Proof Vest 5/5 (but Armor Capacity is 3)
2 pistol rounds

HP: 5/5
Armor: 3/3