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[Criptfeind]

As somewhat loath as I am to just leave you rolling in front of it without assistance, I should probably just prep to throw more dynamite. Ranged damage chips aren't doing to much.

1. Prep Train robbers dynamite
2. Prep Train robbers dynamite
3. Prep Train robbers dynamite
4. Prep Train robbers dynamite
5. Prep Train robbers dynamite

[Draignean]

Does stagger automatically take out the first frames of the round, or can you choose when it happens?

You can select which frames you spend on recovery. Most of the time I'm going to take away the first frames away from enemy combatants, as it makes more thematic sense and makes stagger more valuable for you.

You know, Draignean, if this is the amount of effort you put in to a systems test, well...I think I've already complimented your games.  But seriously.  This is good stuff.

Well, you can sort of compare the evolution as the tests have progressed. See, the first one had 0 flavor and no structure. Basically it was a mechanics test along with ways for me to experiment with how turns were going to be structured. Tests progress, and I start experimenting with structures to display the results. I find the current method, which I'm reasonably happy with, and I start playing with how to integrate flavor. Not a ton, just the smidgen to give the combat a little pizazz and set the mood for the game.

At this point, we're sort of in the final testing phase. There are a dozen little things to play with (Should being struck while using an ability count as a counter?), but at the moment I want the test to feel mostly like an actual game would.

Compare this last round to the first round of the first test, and you can see how gradual the change has been from barebones test to an actually formatted game post.

As somewhat loath as I am to just leave you rolling in front of it without assistance, I should probably just prep to throw more dynamite. Ranged damage chips aren't doing to much.

Says the man who just took off 20% of its health in a single round.

[Criptfeind]

Fair enough. That's true. Although one of those was pretty lucky to get Charons attentions. Still, dynamite should be more overall I think, Because of my frame costs it costs me two attacks per dynamite attack, and it does more then twice as much damage on average, not to mention I think this thing is pretty likely to not be dodge rolling.

Does the cool down start with the frame that an ability is activated? IE: Can I use Early Reaping on the first frame of the next round? Or, if not, and I can only use it on the second frame of the next round, can I use the first frame as a wind up for it?

[Draignean]

Fair enough. That's true. Although one of those was pretty lucky to get Charons attentions. Still, dynamite should be more overall I think, Because of my frame costs it costs me two attacks per dynamite attack, and it does more then twice as much damage on average, not to mention I think this thing is pretty likely to not be dodge rolling.

Does the cool down start with the frame that an ability is activated? IE: Can I use Early Reaping on the first frame of the next round? Or, if not, and I can only use it on the second frame of the next round, can I use the first frame as a wind up for it?

Cooldowns start counting down from the frame they were used on, frame costs can be paid anywhere (before or after) the ability is used unless specified otherwise.

Edit: Yes, I'm going to say you can wind up for in the frames just before it comes off cooldown. So, to be clear. It can be activated on the second frame of the next round.

[ATHATH]

I get to break games without getting yelled at? Count me in.

I'll make a sheet and read the thread when I get home.

[crazyabe]

PTW?

[OceanSoul]

Didn't realize I didn't put an action.
1-2. Charge Power Within.
3-4. Spend all Power Within, Heaven's Garden on (10,11).
5. Charge Power Within.

[Draignean]

Didn't realize I didn't put an action.
1-2. Charge Power Within.
3-4. Spend all Power Within, Heaven's Garden on (10,11).
5. Charge Power Within.

There's a problem with that. You haven't primed Dancing Blossoms yet, and thus can't use Heaven's garden.

[OceanSoul]

Didn't realize I didn't put an action.
1-2. Charge Power Within.
3-4. Spend all Power Within, Heaven's Garden on (10,11).
5. Charge Power Within.

There's a problem with that. You haven't primed Dancing Blossoms yet, and thus can't use Heaven's garden.

In that case, 1-2 is Dancing Blossoms, and I use 9 Souls to remove the cooldown.

[Draignean]

Frame 1

Swift Actions
[None]

Movement/Dodges
[Empty]

Attacks/Blocks
Shorn Blocks

Warm-Up/Cooldowns
Awakened Effigy Warms up Ability

Dead/Disabled
[Empty]

Other
Nhin casts Dancing Blossoms
Miles Primes Dynamite

Frame 2

Swift Actions
[None]

Movement/Dodges
Shorn Moves South

Attacks/Blocks
[Empty]

Warm-Up/Cooldowns
Awakened Effigy Warms up Ability

Dead/Disabled
[Empty]

Other
Nhin finishes casting Dancing Blossoms
Miles Primes Dynamite

Frame 3

Swift Actions
Nhin Uses Nine Souls to take Dancing Blossoms off cooldown
Nhin uses Inner Light, x2

Movement/Dodges
[Empty]

Attacks/Blocks
Shorn Blocks

Warm-Up/Cooldowns
Awakened Effigy uses Winter's Fury, Second Stage, S. Threatens Shorn, Nhin.

Code: (Awakened Effigy Vs Shorn) [Select]

H vs B (Timed Block)
1d10+2 vs 1d6+7 (13) = Auto-miss
Guard Break: 65 Vs 50, Success
 Shorn is Staggered. Loses 2 frames next round.


Code: (Awakened Effigy Vs Nhin) [Select]

HA vs HA
1d10+2 vs 1d11+1 (2) = 11 vs 5, Hit
Damage: 1d5+4 = 7*2*1.5 = 21 (15 Overkill damage reduced to 7) 
Nhin is disabled for remaining Frames
Nhin gains Agony: Evercold
Nhin uses dancing blossoms on (9,11)

Code: (Nhin Vs Awakened Effigy) [Select]

HA vs HA
1d10+2 vs 1d8+2 (5) = 9 vs 9, re-roll. 11 Vs 9. Hit.
Damage: 1d11+7 = 10*1.5 = 15


Another pillar of glowing petals streaks down from heaven, tearing into the abomination's borrowed flesh. This time, however, the attack is weaker. This time, the beast does not fall. This time, the beast retaliates.

The effigy tenses, its scythes still buried in the soil. With a great rending motion, it tears them free, casting frozen earth skyward. The black snow swirling around Nhin responds similarly, exploding upwards and carrying her with it. The blast catches Shorn at the edge, who once more reacts in the nick of time and gets his shield up. The force slams him off balance, and every eye of the shield is clamped firmly shut against the razor snow, but he escapes harm.

Nhin is not so lucky. She falls back a dozen feet to the ground, landing in a crumpled heap on the now frozen soil.

Dead/Disabled
[Empty]

Other
Miles Primes Dynamite

Frame 5

Swift Actions
[None]

Movement/Dodges
Awakened Effigy Moves SE.
Shorn Dodge Rolls North

Attacks/Blocks
[Empty]

Warm-Up/Cooldowns
[Empty]

Dead/Disabled
Nhin is Disabled

Other
Miles Primes Dynamite

Frame 4

Swift Actions
[None]

Movement/Dodges
Awakened Effigy Moves S
Shorn Finishes Dodge Roll

Attacks/Blocks
[Empty]

Warm-Up/Cooldowns
[Empty]

Dead/Disabled
Nhin is Disabled

Other
Miles finishes priming dynamite

A most poignant object lesson to drive home my point. That which was simple once may not always be so, and your life is forfeit should you fail to take this to heart.

Fear the unknown.

Spoiler: Units (click to show/hide)

Enemy
Corrupted Harvest Idol: 41/70

Friendly
Miles: 20/20
Shorn: 5/20
--> Union of the Old Flesh 5/-
--> Staggered (2)
Nhin: 8/15
--> Power Within 1/20

Spoiler: Idol Stats (click to show/hide)

Awakened Harvest Idol
HP: 70

Modifiers:
+2 Damage
+2 To hit
4 Evasion
5 Resistance

Weapons
Blood Twin Scythes [L:2 H:4* D:3 Dam: 8-15]

Known Abilities
Adaptive: Attacks that inflict status debuffs are less likely to succeed, and yield diminishing returns, the more they are used against this target. (Contractual Boss Immunity Type I)
Inhuman Force: Some or all of this units attack's cannot by actively blocked. Such attacks will be designated as UL or UH during patterns. A successful active block during these attacks will be reduced to a timed block.  (Contractual Boss Immunity Type II)

Winter's Wrath:  Cooldown 15, Two stage attack to deal burst damage at range. Stage 1 and Stage 2 must be used on consecutive rounds, and no actions can be taken between stage and stage 2.  (3-7 Damage)
--> Stage 1: Frame Cost 2. Four Tile line of light damage.
--> Stage 2: Frame Cost 3. Snowflake of heavy damage centered on final tile of line.

Known Patterns:
Stage 1
B->L->CL->WL->L
L -> L -> B -> CL -> CL

Stage 2
?->?->?->WA->A
WA -> WA -> UHA -> ? -> ?

Spoiler: Boss Moveset (click to show/hide)

Light
Double Smash

Cross-Chop


Heavy/Ability
Winter's Fury Stage I

Winter's Fury Stage II

Spoiler: Miles (click to show/hide)

Name: Miles Twice Dead
HP:  20/20
Archetype: Pistol Wraith
Assets:
Dead Again: If you take more than 25% of your remaining life in a single blow, re-roll the damage and take the lower value.
Agonies:
Death Echo: If you take more than 25% of your remaining life in a single blow, you become staggered.
Inventory:
St. Elmo's Pistols  [L:2 Ra:4 Dam: 6-8]
Hangmans Noose [EVA +4 -Pot: 2]
Charons bribe [Grants Ability: Early Reaping]
Train robbers dynamite [P:5 H:1 Ra:3 U:3/- Dam:15-30]

Potency: 0 (-2)
Precision: 2
Vigor: 0
Will: 0
Agility: 3

Soul:
Hexagram 63: Aftermath
Upper Trigram: Water
Lower Trigram: Fire

Modifiers:
-2 to Dealt Damage
+7 Evasion
+2 to hit

Abilities:
Dead Shot:  Cooldown 10, Frame cost 4. If the attacker is at least 2, and at most 6 tiles away, make single light attack. Attack gains +1 bonus damage per point the attack roll exceeds the defense roll. This can double the dealt damage, but no more. If this ability doubles the damage of the light attack, it is counted as a heavy attack for the purposes of inflicting stagger.
Blazing Doubleshot: Cooldown -, Framecost 5. Aligns weapon with fire and and makes two heavy attacks, burst pattern. This attack staggers you.
Early Reaping: Cooldown 15, Framecost 2. Select a single target. Your attacks against the target have a 10% chance to deal double damage for this round and the next. Allies gain a 5% chance to do the same.

Spoiler: Shorn (click to show/hide)

Name: Shorn
HP: 5/20
Archetype: Writhing Wall
Assets:
Union of the Old Flesh: Every 3 points of damage taken or dealt gains a charge that can be applied to increase a stat by 1 for a round.
Agonies:
Unstable Form: Abilities have a 25% chance to fizzle and go on cooldown when used.

Inventory:
Writhing Gothic Plate [R:5 -Acc:2 -E:2]
Tower Shield of Eyes [D:4 H:1 Dam: 0-2]
Starmetal Sword [L:2 H:4 Dam: 5-12]
Amulet of Unspeakable Whispers [Grants ability: Insidious Doubt]

Statistics
Potency: 0
Precision: 0
Vigor: 0
Will: 5
Agility: 0

Soul:
Hexagram 8: Bonding
Upper Trigram: Water
Lower Trigram: Earth

Modifiers
Resistance: 10
1d2 Evasion
-2 to Hit

Abilities
Unspeakable Revelation: Cooldown 10, Frames 5. Swap resistance and Potency and make a single heavy attack.
Death Stare: Cooldown 3, Frames 1. Block action. Throw an attack roll on a successful block with the shield of eyes, if the target is struck their Will is reduced by the damage dealt. Reducing a target below 0 Will with this ability deals 1 point of damage.
Insidious Doubt Once per Encounter, Frames -. Curse a single target. That target gains a cumulative 5% chance to be staggered whenever they fail to hit you. Staggering an opponent in this manner resets the counter, as does a successful strike on their part. After three staggers, or if you stagger, the effect breaks.

Spoiler: Nhin (click to show/hide)

Name: Nhin Thalles
HP: 8/15
Archetype: Vulpine Arcanist
Assets: 
Calculating: If Nhin attacks on the fourth or fifth frame, the accuracy and damage are increased by 1.
Agonies:
Hesitant: If Nhin attacks on the first or second frame, the accuracy and damage are decreased by 1.
Evercold: Each round, there is a 10% chance Nhin will have an effective base score of 0 in all stats.

Statistics:
Potency: 2 (1)
Precision: 1 (2)
Vigor: 0 (-1)
Will: 0
Agility: 2 (3)

Inventory:
Red Sakura Staff  [L:2 H:3, dam 5-8]
Phantasmal Silk Robes [E:4 -Pot: 1]
Mystic Fox's Mask [Adds Ability: Foxform]
Foxtail Charm [+1 Agility, +1 Precision, -1 Vigor]


Soul:
Hexagram 5: Calculated Waiting
Upper Trigram: Water
Lower Trigram: Heaven (Metal)

Modifiers 
+1 Damage
+2 To hit 
+7 EVA


Abilities
Dancing Blossoms: Cooldown 5, Frames 2. Gain +2 Evasion, +2 Resistance, -3 Potency until discharged or dispelled. Use again while active to use one of two abilities-
-Coming of Winter: Discharge and attempt to freeze a target within three spaces. Increases Resistance by 8 but removes all evasion. Lasts for 1d4-1 rounds. Water type attack.
-Heaven's Garden: Requires 3 frames. Discharge and select any tile within four spaces as the center of a pillar of metal flowers. Central point is a heavy attack dealing 5-15 damage, all adjacent are affected by a light attack dealing 3-7 damage. Metal Type.
-Inevitable End: Discharge and select any adjacent tile. Any unit that occupies that tile is hit with a heavy attack that deals 7-13 damage and cannot be evaded or resisted.

Power Within: Cooldown -, Frames X. Sacrifice any number of frames on the current round to charge this ability by X*2, this ability can hold up to 20 charges. You lose 1 charge per turn when not charging. Abilities can be used without paying a frame cost.
-Inner Light:  Sacrifice 2 charge to gain a +1 bonus to resistance and potency for one round. At 5 charges, this ability can be applied as a debuff to an enemy within 3 tiles instead.
-Nine Souls:  Sacrifice 5 charge and take one ability, either yours or your ally's, and remove up to 5 frames of cooldown. At 10 charges, this grants a 25% chance for your own abilities to not go on cooldown when used.
-Beacon of Glory: Sacrifice 5 charge to add a +1 bonus to resistance and potency to all allies for one round. At 15 charges, all allies within 3 tiles gain +1 potency and resistance passively.

Foxform: Cooldown Once per Encounter, Frames -. Meld equipment, lose given bonuses. Gain +5 Evasion, -3 Potency. Gain Quick asset (1 move action moves you two spaces). Can still cast abilities that don't depend on weapon. Can be negated at any time.

[Criptfeind]

Can we not summarize from that that it has two movements, respectively in frame 4 and 5 of that pattern?

[Draignean]

Can we not summarize from that that it has two movements, respectively in frame 4 and 5 of that pattern?

Remember that movements can be traded in at any point in a pattern. I don't think I have anyone who has dedicated move actions as part of their pattern anymore.

EDIT: That's completely not true.  Regardless. If there's a question mark, then move actions were substituted in lieu of something else.

[Criptfeind]

Ahhh, alright, I was under the impression that they only did that when they didn't have an appropriate target.

[Draignean]

Ahhh, alright, I was under the impression that they only did that when they didn't have an appropriate target.

Basic enemies, yes, they'll typically be happy with killing whoever is next to them. Well, maybe not in this case, since Shorn is kind of being a difficult target.

[Criptfeind]

1. Move SE
2. Move S
3. Move SW
4. Early Reaping on Harvest idol
5. Ability cooldown
Shorn, if you're gunna attack this turn (although idk if that's a smart idea...) I could early reaping sooner, although preferably not before frame 3.

Ahhh, alright, I was under the impression that they only did that when they didn't have an appropriate target.

Basic enemies, yes, they'll typically be happy with killing whoever is next to them. Well, maybe not in this case, since Shorn is kind of being a difficult target.

Yeh yeh, understandable. It feels like it weakens the nature of pattern based combat when it's like "The exceptions to them following their patterns is in the following circumstances: All." But I guess some balance needs to be found for target difficulty.