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[Horizon]

DS2 is baby difficulty, Sekiro is for real masochists and Elden Ring is for people who hate playing functional games.

[None]

Sounds like someone knew well enough to put points into ADP!

[EuchreJack]

I'm against excessive life extension technology.
The old gain power and lose openness to new ideas.
Eventually, life extension will turn the world into a sociological swamp. Putin proves that well enough.
We can't prolong human life forever, or we'll create The Imperium of Man from 40k lore.

[hector13]

Eventually, life extension will turn the world into a sociological swamp. Putin proves that well enough.

These two sentences don’t seem to have any connection to one another.

[EuchreJack]

Eventually, life extension will turn the world into a sociological swamp. Putin proves that well enough.

These two sentences don’t seem to have any connection to one another.

You forgot the most important sentence:

The old gain power and lose openness to new ideas.

The longer people live, the more Putins exist.  Old people with old ideas and tons of power.  I'm picking on the guy that is universally reviled: There are other, more controversial comparisons.

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Like the current and past president of the United States, Biden & Trump

The point, of course, is that it will only get worse, not better.  Imagine all those folks 25 years older in mindset but not in ability.

[MrRoboto75]

You either die a Trotsky or live long enough to become a putin.

[hector13]

I mean… democracy is an old idea.

Old people in and of themselves aren’t the problem then, as you point out: lack of open-mindedness is. That can be taught, it just won’t be because it requires critical thinking, but critical thinking is a danger to people in power, who aren’t going to be adding it to the curriculum anytime soon.

[LordBaal]

Is like saying young people can't be responsible. Saying old people arent open to new ideas is a blank statement. There could be statistical sway one way or another but is not something written in stone.

[Frumple]

I mean, one of the largest contributors to that is literal neural degeneration and whatnot, the brain explicitly becoming less capable of functioning, due to age. Any reasonable life extension process is going to deal with that along with everything else involved. Aging in general under conditions where debilitating aging effects can be prevented or fixed is going to be... basically nothing like it is now.

You can't predict the effects of a hypothetical future without aging based on the current state of things regarding aging, 'cause, y'know. The current state won't be there.

[EuchreJack]

I mean… democracy is an old idea.

Old people in and of themselves aren’t the problem then, as you point out: lack of open-mindedness is. That can be taught, it just won’t be because it requires critical thinking, but critical thinking is a danger to people in power, who aren’t going to be adding it to the curriculum anytime soon.

Don't be bashing on democracy.  Autocracy and communism are MORE effected by the old gaining power rule.  Although Communism will purge its old once a generation, it's hardly enough.

Democracy is a horribly broken system, but its the best form of government because the Ruling Elite can be overthrown peacefully.  All other forms of government required overthrowing the Ruling Elite violently.

[hector13]

I’m not bashing on democracy, I’m exploring your points :p

The people who tend to be elected in democracies are old people, particularly for leadership positions, and there are usually only a handful of parties to choose from, that usually have well-established positions, so “overthrowing” a democratic government just means replacing one set of old people with old ideas with a slightly different set of old people with slightly different old ideas.

[Iduno]

I’m not bashing on democracy, I’m exploring your points :p

The people who tend to be elected in democracies are old people, particularly for leadership positions, and there are usually only a handful of parties to choose from, that usually have well-established positions, so “overthrowing” a democratic government just means replacing one set of old people with old ideas with a slightly different set of old people with slightly different old ideas.

Yeah, it quickly becomes an oligarchy if parties are allowed, and if only 2 of them are viable, you end up with a duopoly, and all of the issues that brings.

[Laterigrade]

I’m not bashing on democracy, I’m exploring your points :p

The people who tend to be elected in democracies are old people, particularly for leadership positions, and there are usually only a handful of parties to choose from, that usually have well-established positions, so “overthrowing” a democratic government just means replacing one set of old people with old ideas with a slightly different set of old people with slightly different old ideas.

I think the ideas get younger each time, though. I suppose that’s really the basis of all political fighting, the age of the ideas in question. Or it’s a nice-sounding simplification, at the least, haha.

[Egan_BW]

I mean… democracy is an old idea.

Old people in and of themselves aren’t the problem then, as you point out: lack of open-mindedness is. That can be taught, it just won’t be because it requires critical thinking, but critical thinking is a danger to people in power, who aren’t going to be adding it to the curriculum anytime soon.

Don't be bashing on democracy.  Autocracy and communism are MORE effected by the old gaining power rule.  Although Communism will purge its old once a generation, it's hardly enough.

Democracy is a horribly broken system, but its the best form of government because the Ruling Elite can be overthrown peacefully.  All other forms of government required overthrowing the Ruling Elite violently.

How does representative democracy uniquely allow that? After all, if the democratically elected ruling elite really wanted to, they could use the power they were democratically granted to, fully legally, replace the constitution and be rulers for life.

[martinuzz]

How does representative democracy uniquely allow that? After all, if the democratically elected ruling elite really wanted to, they could use the power they were democratically granted to, fully legally, replace the constitution and be rulers for life.

Not nescessarily. Over here, a change to the Constitution needs to be approved by two consecutive parliaments and two consecutive senates.