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Aoi

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Re: Oxygen Not Included: Alpha Release
« Reply #225 on: January 11, 2019, 11:39:12 pm »

The good news is, you can just pipe water into a reservoir that is in chlorine gas and it kills all the germs, unless they've patched that out.
How long does it need to be in the reservoir, though? I'm preparing for the inevitable contamination by food poisoning.

It's something like -5000 germs per second. Half-life of the germs inside is something like 11 seconds.

EDIT: You can see it in action here: https://youtu.be/eILtbLDUJe0?t=288

Wait. Putting a gas tank of germy oxygen in a room of chlorine kills the germs that are inside the tank? The germs that should be entirely sealed in a pressurized container and not at all exposed to the chlorine?
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Re: Oxygen Not Included: Alpha Release
« Reply #226 on: January 12, 2019, 05:59:39 am »

Yeah, slimelung's temperature tolerance is outside the water freezing/boiling range, I think.
Only polluted water can be cleaned that way and that's cooling it under 0 degrees, because it only freezes at -10 or lower.
The good news is, you can just pipe water into a reservoir that is in chlorine gas and it kills all the germs, unless they've patched that out.

Slimelung however should rarely be in water unless you have actually turned slime or algae into water/polluted water. It doesn't even transfer from solids submerged in it. I don't remember the last colony I had where that happened.
I dont think the chlorine trick works anymore :(
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Re: Oxygen Not Included: Alpha Release
« Reply #227 on: January 12, 2019, 11:23:59 am »

Yeah, slimelung's temperature tolerance is outside the water freezing/boiling range, I think.
Only polluted water can be cleaned that way and that's cooling it under 0 degrees, because it only freezes at -10 or lower.
The good news is, you can just pipe water into a reservoir that is in chlorine gas and it kills all the germs, unless they've patched that out.

Slimelung however should rarely be in water unless you have actually turned slime or algae into water/polluted water. It doesn't even transfer from solids submerged in it. I don't remember the last colony I had where that happened.
I dont think the chlorine trick works anymore :(
It works for food boxes, at least.
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Re: Oxygen Not Included: Alpha Release
« Reply #228 on: January 12, 2019, 11:37:16 am »

Yes but not for free water thars what I mean
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Re: Oxygen Not Included: Alpha Release
« Reply #229 on: January 12, 2019, 04:19:36 pm »

Are you putting in an actual reservoir base structure(listed under the "Base" category), or are you doing what I did and digging out a cistern and pumping the fluids into the open in that?
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Re: Oxygen Not Included: Alpha Release
« Reply #230 on: January 12, 2019, 04:43:41 pm »

Dug out cistern.

I dont think chlorine works there anymore. I see no "chlorine death" debuff on the germs either
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Re: Oxygen Not Included: Alpha Release
« Reply #231 on: January 12, 2019, 09:01:33 pm »

What, like this?

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EDIT: This is the liquid reservoir, full of infected water and inside a sparse chlorine atmosphere:
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Re: Oxygen Not Included: Alpha Release
« Reply #232 on: January 12, 2019, 09:34:56 pm »

The good news is, you can just pipe water into a reservoir that is in chlorine gas and it kills all the germs, unless they've patched that out.
How long does it need to be in the reservoir, though? I'm preparing for the inevitable contamination by food poisoning.

It's something like -5000 germs per second. Half-life of the germs inside is something like 11 seconds.

EDIT: You can see it in action here: https://youtu.be/eILtbLDUJe0?t=288

Wait. Putting a gas tank of germy oxygen in a room of chlorine kills the germs that are inside the tank? The germs that should be entirely sealed in a pressurized container and not at all exposed to the chlorine?

And to answer my own question... yes, yes it does, in the current version (Q1-302293). At least for water storage. This is going to be a much easier solution than cooking it.
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Re: Oxygen Not Included: Alpha Release
« Reply #233 on: February 03, 2019, 10:50:10 am »

QoL 2 upgrade is going to make you able to print other stuff randomly instead of just dupes. Like, 2000kg of water, 500kg of dirt, or even a briar seed or shine brin nymph...
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« Reply #234 on: February 04, 2019, 04:51:34 am »

Wonderful, like I don't obsessively reload enough already looking for the perfect dupe. Now I've got more noise in the RNG competing for the right traits.
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« Reply #235 on: February 04, 2019, 02:14:14 pm »

Well, you get 4 choices on the printer now, and most of the time only 1 is going to be a mat.

Also means that instead of ignoring the printer once you got the amount of dupes you want, you can just pick whatever resource and let it recharge again.
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Re: Oxygen Not Included: Alpha Release
« Reply #236 on: February 04, 2019, 10:42:52 pm »

A duplicant every 3 days is too many mouths for me anyway, so I just reroll till I get what I want.
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Re: Oxygen Not Included: Alpha Release
« Reply #237 on: February 05, 2019, 03:37:40 am »

Yeah, I spent ages just leaving the printer running for no reason.
Much more handy to use it for scarcities.
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Re: Oxygen Not Included: Alpha Release
« Reply #238 on: February 05, 2019, 08:25:35 am »

I had the printer give me the option for very cold (< -40°C) ice, 4 tons of it, so I picked it every time. I now may or may not have a smaaaall flooding problem near my water tank now but hey, free water and cold.
EDIT: thinking about it, maybe the printer should require a bit of electricity, seems fairly op to me now...
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Re: Oxygen Not Included: Alpha Release
« Reply #239 on: February 13, 2019, 07:13:15 pm »

Making steam for the, thing that you need steam for later in the game, is a pretty giant pain in the ass.  Most ways of making steam produce steam jusssstttt over 100 C, so if you try to pipe it long distances you get broken vents and some water.  I probably should have just made 300 degree steam at the bottom of the map and carried it up in canisters, but I found a way that didn't require that (and used the water that just happened to be near the site).

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Ignore the overly complicated crap everywhere, a lot of that is failed attempts that weren't fully cleaned up.  The important thing is the two chambers with different heating methods.  That's all I'd replicate if I had to do this again.
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