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asialsky

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Since when can dwarves learn?
« on: February 10, 2017, 06:25:31 pm »

I had my first ever "siege" on this embark, which was just a single squad of steel-clad goblins.
Up until now, I had no military, so I drafted 10 useless migrants.
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Only 4 dwarves died. Three of those were to their crossbow.
In the end, it was my cook/carpenter "Dishrag" who charged the remaining swordsman with a (copper battle axe). They proceeded to hit them in the side of the helmet with it once, before going "Oh, wait a minute," pulling the goblin's (steel helm) off, and then cutting into their now-exposed skull.

I wish all dwarves could be this practical.

EDIT: *screech* Holy carp, everyone get down!
I have a few custom mods installed, with a borrowed set of materials.
The goblins had Doomium chainmail on, with Doomium shields. If they had managed to get one "lodged firmly in the wound" or similar, they would've exploded into flaming poison.
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Excuse me while I dump these into the volcano.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2017, 06:33:11 pm by asialsky »
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Bortness

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Re: Since when can dwarves learn?
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2017, 07:04:37 pm »

They're not really learning... if I recall correctly, this is an explicit behavior that Toady coded into the engine to deal with a specific issue - the endless useless head strikes which never penetrate the helm of an unconscious opponent.
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asialsky

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Re: Since when can dwarves learn?
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2017, 07:49:38 pm »

They're not really learning... if I recall correctly, this is an explicit behavior that Toady coded into the engine to deal with a specific issue - the endless useless head strikes which never penetrate the helm of an unconscious opponent.
It's honestly the first time I've seen this happen. Then again, it could be Armok's blessing after I allowed the cats to multiply, and ended-up butchering all 50 of them for food.
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kingsableye

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Re: Since when can dwarves learn?
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2017, 08:47:05 pm »

As Bortness said, it was a fix from Toady not too long ago. Makes combat more fair as well so that you dwarves don't die to a goblin while they try and beat another goblin to death through his helm
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asialsky

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Re: Since when can dwarves learn?
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2017, 09:14:28 pm »

As Bortness said, it was a fix from Toady not too long ago. Makes combat more fair as well so that you dwarves don't die to a goblin while they try and beat another goblin to death through his helm
All I'm saying is that I hardly ever see this kind of thing happen, though that's probably for the best. I managed to melt their gear without it detonating, so hopefully my new pile of deadly ammo will reduce the need to be within melee range.
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Re: Since when can dwarves learn?
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2017, 09:23:47 pm »

It was one of the very last things that was updated so you won't have seen it happen any time previously.

Siegers now have full armour, so helmeted siegers will cause endless head attack loops. Solution was to apply force (mace to the helmet snaps your neck), wear (multiple hits to your helmet will break it) and ai (take helmets off unconscious foes).
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