unvoteTDS is still town, unless you can convince me that town had multiple surefire methods of getting rid of him (and detecting him in the first place).
This is purely meta-speculation on how I expect FoU to be running this game, but it is also pretty ironclad a case within that speculative framework.
flame99As I've said again and again, I've not posted much because I have no real idea of what to say.
"Oh woe is me, I am a new player and refuse to say anything while pretending this somehow contributes to the daygame"
What you should be saying is, 'we should lynch X'. X should change throughout the day and throughout time, and X at the very start of the game should be someone completely random (but we're well out of RVS by now).
For clarity, I'm not voting you because I think you're scum. I'm voting you because I don't think you're not scum, and while you're in exactly the same boat as more experienced players like Tiruin in not giving clear reads, in your case it's for a want of activity and contribution so you're not positioning yourself to give reads
in the future nor are you setting the town up to do anything.
Day 1 we lost a player and our odd numbers to a no-lynch. Outside of powers, a no-lynch at some number of mislynches out from lylo is the same as a mislynch, so this is unforgiveable. Hopefully someone will die (or not die) due to powers to make up the numbers and get us back to where we want to be, but for now let's work with the assumption that night phases are worse for the town than day phases.
Quite frankly, until I can do more than vaguely guess at what I'm supposed to be doing, no, I really don't, since I'd just be wasting time.
No, what you are doing now is wasting time (i.e. time is literally pouring away while you do nothing). If you actually asked questions and answered questions, regardless of whether or not you were honest or insightful or any other thing, there would be more material in the game of you and other players for us to analyze.
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Webadict has made some rather extreme accusations and went for blood at very little provocation, but everybody seems to be ignoring that, so I guess that's normal. Like I said, I can't contribute much.
Why don't you make a big thing about it if everyone is ignoring it?
If you've found what you think are scum, and you're just going to let it sit because other people aren't picking up on it, you're going to struggle to win games no matter how insightful you are.
Furthermore, making a case gives
other players the ability to read you. I'm voting you now because you've given out no information on yourself or another player (real information, not barebones mechanical interaction) and have taken a stance where you intend to continue that position. Well, if I don't have any indication that you're town and you're not promising me a chance to get an indication that you're scum, I'll try to kill you now so I don't have to deal with a complete unknown.
How the hell would I know whether you're scum or town?
Care to speculate?
If someone asks you a question and you don't know the answer in definitive terms (hint: you never will), then give the best answer you can give at this time. Say 'I don't like the feeling of how X did Y' or 'X generated a lot of activity and their case on Z was well reasoned so I'm leaning towards thinking they're town'. The fact that you're not engaging with the daygame is actually scummy in itself, since a low information low activity daygame is usually pro-scum, but in your case maybe you're just new. Guess what? I don't care. You're still making the day easier for scum by not forcing out content. Post
something, then when people respond post more based on that.
I haven't found anything to confirm Cin one way or another. Again, I don't know.
Neither have I. Yet I'm going to say: your blatantly incompetent style suggests on a meta level that you're not in a scumteam with someone you know well and trust, because maybe (and I'm reaching here, since you seem pretty firmly opposed to actually contributing to the game and I don't know quite what the reaches of your unprovoked spite are) you'd actually listen to them and contribute something. Then again, Cinder is almost as useless as you (though they're at least putting effort in) so who knows?
That last sentence would normally be left unsaid, since I've got no problem with spreading blatant lies let alone slight doubts about other players and their interactions, since it's in my interests to leave players in the dark where I don't need them to understand (for example, regarding whether or not and why I think a certain player may be town if I'm not making a case on or defending that player).
How would I know? Seriously, do you think I have FoU's notes or something? Maybe WA's or TDS's powers would be suited to an independent but I don't know.
Well, you've raised two possible lines of inquiry, so that's clearly not so hard that you can't do it.
Why not build on what you've just said an elaborate as to why wuba or TDS might be third party, and whether or not you think that is likely given their behavior to this point?
You need to let go of mechanics for the most part. They have very little to do with the actual daygame, because the daygame is all about information and finding out who knows more than you and why you shouldn't kill them (note well: the default position is that you should be killing anyone better informed than you, because they're scum).
For meta reasons, I sincerely doubt it. It'd be rather broken to give an independent effective control of the town.
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Several people agree with you, including me. This means that the town as it stands is would be very resistant of a TDS lynch, even though it's possible now. In this case, we can largely agree that TDS is (still) clear, or at least not scum.
One must ask, what type of non-town exactly could he be, with a power like that, and in most cases the answer is "an unlikely one".
For one who is trying to call me out on "vacuous questions", you sure seem to like asking ones I couldn't possibly know the answer to.
Yeah that's usually what happens when you don't have any material for me to ask questions about.
Once you start posting I'll mostly be asking you questions about your posts (your reasoning) and other people's posts (where you will need to speculate and try to take a stance
in order to influence me and my position regarding that player and yourself.)
I have the time to write. I just don't know what to write. I could start pointing fingers at people and spew out a lot of conjectures and hope some stick, but I'll need to come up with ideas on WHAT.
Yeah basically just do that.
Once we get something going we can discuss that but for now we're basically doing something between flailing and fishing in the brightly lit waters of Day 2.
That said, I'd like your opinion on the following:
TDS is basically clear and we should assume that he is town
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