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Telgin

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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #54165 on: Today at 06:47:47 pm »

I feel like that would be the natural response, but I don't really know what is even traded between countries that would be affected by the tariffs.

Actually, how does this interact with NAFTA?
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« Reply #54166 on: Today at 06:57:05 pm »

Actually, how does this interact with NAFTA?

Not an expert, at all, but I feel this is probably a blatant breach of the terms.
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« Reply #54167 on: Today at 07:09:02 pm »

Trump negotiated a trade deal with Canada and Mexico during his first term.

I think Mexico might respond, Trudeau has been a bit less confrontational about it.
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« Reply #54168 on: Today at 07:43:25 pm »

Does the president have unilateral authority to apply tariffs or does it have to go through legislation?
Basically... yes. It does have to go through legislation, but the issue there is it's gone through legislation and the legislation broadly left the president with unilateral authority to apply tariffs.

It's a power designated by congress that could be removed or overruled by congress, but fucking lol at the prospect of the incoming congress being willing to shit in trump's sandbox like that. It's ostensibly possible, but practically incredibly, incredibly unlikely (so long as there's a GOP majority, so at least until 26, probably).

Canada is shocked with Trump's annoucement it will get 25% tariff rates at the first day of his presidency.
I wonder if Canada (and Mexico) will have balls to respond with simmilar tarrifs.
Mexico's already been quite loud that they will retaliate, and their current leadership would be pretty damn certain to follow through with it. It's... not likely Sheinbaum is going to be particularly cordial towards trump, for a gigantic host of reasons.

Good bit of canada's political critters across their entire spectrum has also been making noises along those lines.

That said, similar tariffs are unlikely -- the last time trump tried tariff horseshit with those two, they used very specifically targeted retaliatory tariffs to basically rile up folk stateside so badly trump functionally went and rolled over, belly up. They, unlike trump, aren't stupid enough to think a universal tariff is needed or helpful to accomplish their goals, so it's fairly unlikely you'll see that. Retaliation, though? About as close to certain as certain gets, and it's going to be aimed to hit where it hurts.
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« Reply #54169 on: Today at 10:48:53 pm »

Whatever Trump threatens, it can be easily put aside if you will just withdraw dufflebags of USD from your banks and give them to Trump's bagman. (Egypt in 2015). That is the point of many of Trump's threats.
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