Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[pisskop]

Kalmala down, dont pull out your Harrs over some Trumped up sensationalist news

[hector13]

I'm watching the counting unfold with Streamer Vaush. Don't know why I gravitated towards this guy cause he's kind of an asshole, but I guess that's besides the point, I just need someone else with me on this rollercoaster so I'm not futilely trying to parse the data myself and losing all my hair.

Early in the evening is a phenomenon known as a red mirage, in which Republicans tend to get a big boost because the less densely populated rural areas can count their votes quicker than the more densely populated urban areas which tend to skew Democrat.

This is usually followed by a blue shift when those urban areas get on the board, and is also one of the things Trump will likely highlight as “evidence” of cheating, even though it’s completely normal.

/sagacious dissemination of information learned in the past week

[Telgin]

Trump's lead still looks pretty decisive in most of the battleground states based on what I've seen.  I'm trying not to give up hope, and keep telling myself that it's impressive that Harris was able to do as well as she could with the time she had, but it's not helping take the sting out of it much.

[Robot Parade Leader]

Yup. It's close until it is all counted up. I think too many people want instant numbers to justify everything but only 60% of many states are counted right now.

https://imgur.com/gallery/under-30-thinking-of-voting-stein-west-libertarian-socialist-because-world-sucks-read-this-twice-xRoWGpd

Basically, this is why I don't like protest votes. Sure, both sides aren't great, but Bush won by how many votes? 500 or so in Florida?

Sure, Gore would've had issues, but we'd be years ahead on Climate Change, and he wouldn't have done the Iraq War. Plus, two more liberals on the supreme court instead of Bush's.

It's all in the link. Either way, its a two party system good or bad. Go for the one of those you think will be better than the other. I really hope we don't end up with another 2000 like Bush v freaking Gore. Things would've been different.

[anewaname]

This may not seem related to America but it cannot be otherwise... Netanyahu dismissed his defense minister Yoav Gallant. I consider this to be either a) Bibi making the decision to preemptively cut out anyone that would work with harris against him, or b) Bibi feeling confident that trump's support will allow Bibi to discard his coalition government.

@Hector
Dense population centers may be the lesser source of the red-mirage. This is a few minutes of Bernie Sanders in 2020 on The Tonight Show, explaining how mail-in ballots can create a red-mirage and how he expects trump to mislead people using that information.

[hector13]

Mail-in ballots was another one the guy I watched on YT mentioned, yeah. Tends to skew Dem - because the Republicans are all “ohhh the fraud the fraud” with zero evidence - but this year Republicans have been a bit more about telling their supporters to do it too, so it might be a lesser impact this year maybe?

[Lord Shonus]

@Hector
Dense population centers may be the lesser source of the red-mirage. This is a few minutes of Bernie Sanders in 2020 on The Tonight Show, explaining how mail-in ballots can create a red-mirage and how he expects trump to mislead people using that information.

That's a very big thing - Reports from one county in NM took Harris from trailing to a 9 point lead.

[ZBridges]

This is horrifying. Harris was a weaker candidate than I anticipated.

[Telgin]

Yeah, I knew it was going to be an uphill battle but I was hoping for better than this.

Anyway, based on the numbers I'm seeing it looks really unlikely to me that mail-in ballots could save her in the swing states.  So, guess I'm preparing myself for four years of word salad and governance befitting a third grader.

[Flying Teasets]

What is the risk of state violence against posters here after a real or fraudulent Trump win?

[Flying Teasets]

Repeated for seriousness: What is the risk of state violence against posters here after a real or fraudulent Trump win?

[Flying Dice]

I know there was an extraordinary number of absentee votes this year, but PA looks locked in for Trump and that means Harris would need to flip almost everything else to carry it.

The really scary thing is that Trump is basically senile at this point, so we're looking at that lunatic Vance running things in a year or two.

[eerr]

I mean... Trump will make up alot of shit if he doesn't win in a landslide. but mostly his supporters will get what they want.

He isn't stupid enough to kill people who disagree with him.

He could attack some social media as a unit though. As if that wasn't already the prerogative of presidents.

[Telgin]

I'm particularly surprised by PA going to him, but it looks like Harris had a very steep uphill battle across the country.  Probably a lot of reasons we can blame, but I think the Democrats had a very difficult battle this election cycle regardless of who their candidate was.  People will blame Biden and the Democrats for the economic impact of COVID, and while Trump's answers for that are stupid (like doing away with federal income taxes in favor of tariffs), people like the simple answers he gives.  It doesn't really matter how real they are.

While I had a feeling Trump was going to win this cycle, I am pretty disappointed.  A lot of theory crafting hinted that the polls were wrong and that hidden voters, like women, were going to make a surprise win for Harris.  Of course, that was all probably wishful thinking.

Repeated for seriousness: What is the risk of state violence against posters here after a real or fraudulent Trump win?

Realistically?  Close to zero.

I can't really think of any realistic scenario where anything like that happens.  You could claim that things like denial of abortion services count, but Trump winning mostly just means that won't get any better.

Well, I guess he'll probably deport more people.  So there is that.

[hector13]

The Senate has flipped.