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[McTraveller]

At this point I'm almost rooting for that asteroid in 2029...

[bloop_bleep]

JD Vance Hitlerposts, says Haitian immigrants spread disease, including tuberculosis and HIV. All but calls them rats.

JD Vance admits it was all a lie, after multiple bomb threats to schools and government buildings, a rise in racial intimidation, KKK posters, which Trump refused to condemn.

Trump's team are a dangerous domestic terrorist organization and a concrete and immediate mortal threat to human life.

[hector13]

JD Vance Hitlerposts, says Haitian immigrants spread disease, including tuberculosis and HIV. All but calls them rats.

JD Vance admits it was all a lie, after multiple bomb threats to schools and government buildings, a rise in racial intimidation, KKK posters, which Trump refused to condemn.

Trump's team are a dangerous domestic terrorist organization and a concrete and immediate mortal threat to human life.

No, they’re a threat to non-Americans, which is presumably a significant difference in their (the Trump campaign and supporters, probably the Republicans at large if they aren’t publicly saying this is all nonsense) eyes.

[sarcasm warning because it’s the internet]If a white person gets caught up in an attack on a non-white, well, they were obviously race traitors for being that close in the first place[/sarcasm]

[eerr]

He'll make the government into his playground, in the same way as Putin.
He's only against women, blacks, latinos, foreigners, well, lots of people. but that doesn't matter if he lowers taxes! Also he's against you if you don't support him.
Time to just sneaky-poo a little inflation to pay for his new dictatorship.
if you don't know what inflation means, don't worry, it's a problem to be dealt with in a few years, it won't affect you.

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hahahahahahaha

His loyalty? he's loyal to trump, and that's what's important.
everyone else, including the people that vote for him, work for him, and approve of him, are expendable. He needs more fodder in order to change the world in his image.

and if he does reorganize the government into a dictatorship? Who will the heir be? His children think he's kinda wack.
remember that the fbi maintained a long-running investigation against him, this round he might just gut the fbi instead

The corporations are becoming more powerful, so maybe we'll be a corporatocracy instead? Trump is a businessman with many ties...

[McTraveller]

I'd have to do some more research into how a democracy could fall into a dictatorship; it doesn't seem like the structures of the US government would allow such a thing, at least not "officially" - it would literally take a civil war or some kind of Constitutional Convention to do it, and I don't see either of those things happen.

So the only way it would manifest is some kind of "de facto" dictatorship, and I think it would have pretty limited power... but maybe I'm being too optimistic? I just don't see the kind of military support for Trump that he'd need to do such a thing.

The scary thought is that there may be someone after Trump that would have such support...

Funny thing about inflation, though, is basically all his policies would increase it, not reduce it... and even more funny is if he thinks he would stay in power if there was an actual coup...

[eerr]

Okay thank you.
Thinking about it, four years isn't enough time to consolidate power.
Was it congress or the supreme court that does impeachment if he gets out of line?

[Maximum Spin]

Okay thank you.
Thinking about it, four years isn't enough time to consolidate power.
Was it congress or the supreme court that does impeachment if he gets out of line?

Congress, but the Chief Justice presides over it.

[Frumple]

Okay thank you.
Thinking about it, four years isn't enough time to consolidate power.
Was it congress or the supreme court that does impeachment if he gets out of line?

Congress, though that's largely irrelevant considering how dysfunctional it is these days.

[Robot Parade Leader]

I'd have to do some more research into how a democracy could fall into a dictatorship; it doesn't seem like the structures of the US government would allow such a thing, at least not "officially" - it would literally take a civil war or some kind of Constitutional Convention to do it, and I don't see either of those things happen.

So the only way it would manifest is some kind of "de facto" dictatorship, and I think it would have pretty limited power... but maybe I'm being too optimistic? I just don't see the kind of military support for Trump that he'd need to do such a thing.

The scary thought is that there may be someone after Trump that would have such support...

Funny thing about inflation, though, is basically all his policies would increase it, not reduce it... and even more funny is if he thinks he would stay in power if there was an actual coup...

O wonder no more how he'll do it: https://www.project2025.org/ You may have heard of this before though.

He'll do the same thing to government he did with the Supreme Court: Stack the deck. Doing that is illegal but that's not gonna stop him. Nevermind those competitive service examinations and skill qualifiers to make sure they actually know anything. He'll just illegally stack all government positions with his flunkies, the more brain dead, the better. If they don't follow whatever world salad Dear Leader Trump craps out, then hey, he'll fire them or make their lives unbearable once he makes that legal somehow. He'll do it directly or he'll dole out contract work to his flunkies for favors.
He will literally let part of the country burn if they don't do whatever he says.

Sure he may have done lots of felonies including those a NY jury convicted him of, but he'll follow all the laws right? He'll just do whatever he wants and say it doesn't matter because he's just winning so much and not hurting anyone and being the greatest. "Bigly."

Impeachment? That didn't work last time because it was all political crap.

Even the Republican Leaders like Mitch McConnell said he was responsible for January 6 but they just didn't want any threat to their political power holding him responsible would have. So all but 7 of them voted not to impeach knowing he did it.

Here's the governor of Ohio saying the racist lie about eating cats and dogs is a racist lie. At this point, Trump is just gonna lie about anything.

They're all just apologists for Trump. O he "learned his lesson?" No he didn't. Trump doesn't learn lessons, he keeps making up lies. If he's voted back in then it's a major problem for the U.S. democracy. The only people who vote for him are those he has defrauded into believing he cares about him, and those who believe they have no choice/are out of options. Biden stood aside when everyone called him too old, but Trump will never stand aside.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-investigating-another-apparent-assassination-attempt-against-trump-heres-what-authorities-said-happened-at-a-florida-golf-course-221838365.html
Another moron tried to pull an assassination attempt? God that's stupid. Please nobody do this. The only way to beat him is through voting him and his crap out of office. All that would ever do is make him a martyr and enshrine him as an object of worship. Bullets are NOT the answer and that is a dumbest idea. Bad bad bad bad idea. Do not do.

The only real way to beat Trump is in an election that he can't even pretend was anything but a loss to him. No repeat of Jan 6, no nothing. Just unqualified election loss by losing the vote. Nothing else will do, and anything else is bad.

The real answer is voting so this guy does not go anywhere near public office again.

[anewaname]

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No, they’re a threat to non-Americans, which is presumably a significant difference in their (the Trump campaign a+nd supporters, probably the Republicans at large if they aren’t publicly saying this is all nonsense) eyes.

[sarcasm warning because it’s the internet]If a white person gets caught up in an attack on a non-white, well, they were obviously race traitors for being that close in the first place[/sarcasm]

I would argue that their first target will be "white" political opponents, under the guise of criminal charges, etc. It would be an attempt to take down the strongest opposition leaders to prevent any future organized opposition. Immigrants and non-whites will not be specifically targeted until later, when there is no one left to speak for them. You have seen that AI image of Biden/Pelosi/etc in prison garments that Trump-topia folk retweet. That is their first objective.

In Germany, the Nazis immediately began using the government establishments to imprison political opponents and it was four years before they imprisoned Niemöller, who wrote that famous "First they came for the socialists..." statement. A year later, after 5 years of imprisoning Germans while ranting that "Jews are bad", they built the 6 famous camps and began imprisoning Jews for being Jewish.

Non-Americans in the USA are not a threat to Trump-topia folk, they have no power to fight back. You turn a democracy into a dictatorship by locking up or killing the other leaders of the democracy.

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Oddly reminding me of some Crusader Kings games I've had...

[Lord Shonus]

Haven't seen anyone mention it, but it looks like there was another assassination attempt against Trump.

[Frumple]

Tail end of the post two above yours, heh.

Near as I can tell from chatter, it looks like some kind of former trump voter that got disillusioned and turned genuine never trumper, with a pile of weird conspiracy stuff on the side. Antivax, china released covid, stuff like that. Very pro-ukraine, which folks seem to suspect is where the attempt (if it actually was one, not sure if there's been confirmation on it yet) came from, since trump's likely to hand ukraine over on a silver platter. Guy's alive and in custody, though, so more information on that front might actually turn up this time.

[Folly]

Haven't seen anyone mention it, but it looks like there was another assassination attempt against Trump.

Apparently someone was shooting around Trump again.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c8dp10d4vq2t

This guy didn't get nearly as close as the last one. Though it sounds like the only thing that stopped him is he got sloppy and left his gun out where Secret Service could barely spot it. Trump lucks out again.


As to Trump turning a Democracy into a Dictatorship, all he needs is a Congress who refuse to stop him, and a voting public who refuse to replace their incompetent Congress. And of course continued luck with dodging incoming bullets.

[Starver]

Naturally, there's convenient (but surely not actual) coincidental timing to it happen8ng shortly after a Trump Slump/bad comparison with the opposition.

(If we see a third such, at some point, then I'll consider the need to make the point seriously.)

[wobbly]

The 1st shooting was in a whisker of succeeding. Unfortunately that demonstrates how possible it is to any crazy considering it. Though mostly I suspect it's high tensions, there's so many people on edge right now, both politically and in life in general.