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[hector13]

It’s the internet (or worse a politics thread), you’re not allowed to make jokes.

[Frumple]

Well, you are, but you're well served by making it actually clear you're joking. It's remarkably hard to tell through text even when you're not dealing with a subject where people in the highest halls of the planet's hyperpower are babbling about jewish space lasers.

[Micro102]

Just a reminder, we used to have a guy in this thread who doubled down on BLM being the same as the mob of racists who committed the Tulsa massacre. Use the almighty "/s"

[scriver]

The /s is terrible and unacceptable.

[MorleyDev]

The /s is terrible and unacceptable.

Yeah, the correct irony punctuation is ⸮

(A lack of tone indicators in the English language is definitely a flaw in the construction of the language. plz patch)

[Maximum™]

Speaky of irony: Sidney Powell is somehow the smartest one of the clowncar of defendants edit: left in the Georgia trial, edit: second to take a deal: probation+fine+testimony.

Totally forgot about Hall, who got 5 years probation, 5k fine, apology letter, she got 6 years probation, 6k fine, restitution, apology letter.

Time is running out on the rest who might hope to get probation rather than prison.

[Dostoevsky]

Just to be clear, the House does have a speaker pro tem, McHenry. Unlike earlier this year when they were trying to actually start the session in the first place, nothing's stopping it from going about ordinary business.

For what it's worth, this last sentence isn't true. Now it's not entirely clear exactly what the temporary speaker's authority is, but the generally accepted situation is that McHenry's only ability right now is to convene and recess the House and manage the selection of the next speaker. Certain other privileged motions could be raised in the usual fashion, but that's not a speaker ability so much as a member ability.

I mention this because the most likely current outcome (possibly happening later today) is a bipartisan group of House members giving McHenry further - but limited - powers through the end of the calendar year. Essentially they'd be doing appropriations, emergency aid supplementals, the required reauthorizations, but not the usual 'meat for the base' that the House does week to week.

At this point Republicans are still vigorously debating whether or not they should force Jordan to withdraw his name for the running first, as some don't want to give him several months of campaigning/bullying followed by forcing fresh votes in January on him.

[Maximum Spin]

For what it's worth, this last sentence isn't true. Now it's not entirely clear exactly what the temporary speaker's authority is, but the generally accepted situation is that McHenry's only ability right now is to convene and recess the House and manage the selection of the next speaker. Certain other privileged motions could be raised in the usual fashion, but that's not a speaker ability so much as a member ability.

That's actually not what the enabling law says. The enabling law says that the speaker pro tem "may exercise such authorities of the Office of Speaker as may be necessary and appropriate to that end". Such "necessary and proper" clauses are generally interpreted expansively. So, the speaker pro tem essentially fills the role of a speaker, and, while he's OSTENSIBLY SUPPOSED TO bring about an election first thing, the House could simply vote to set that aside, while McHenry can also take any normal speaker actions he thinks will help get a new speaker into place. So, nothing procedurally stops the House from going about ordinary business. It's purely an internal decision.

[Dostoevsky]

That's actually not what the enabling law says. The enabling law says that the speaker pro tem "may exercise such authorities of the Office of Speaker as may be necessary and appropriate to that end". Such "necessary and proper" clauses are generally interpreted expansively.

That's not opposed to what I said? It's not entirely clear, but the generally accepted situation by the House is that it's limited. This is a practical choice because...

the House could simply vote to set that aside,

And there's the rub. If they don't have the votes for who leads them, do they have the votes to agree to do something? They don't. The speaker isn't a pro forma role.

Edit: And to that point, the latest word is that the 'empower McHenry' push went down in flames in the internal R caucus meeting, with Scalise among others opposed.

[Schmaven]

Givng the temporary speaker regular speaker powers is a good way to stop that being an elected position at all.  I think some republicans (it would only take a handful) should just vote for Hakim Jeffries and be done with the drama.

[Frumple]

They'd basically immediately, or as soon as possible, lose their office if they did that, with near enough to 100% certainty as to not matter.

If multiple of them were willing to fall on a sword like that, we probably wouldn't be dealing with the current situation to begin with, heh. Nevermind that Jeffries would almost certainly refuse -- even most of the GOP's politicians are capable of realizing how much of a poison pill they've turned that position into.

[anewaname]

This month, Jessica Denson won a class-action that invalidated the NDAs for the 400+ Trump 2016 campaign workers. There must be a lot of people with NDA's just like those...

[Duuvian]

It looks like Biden is bringing back Net Neutrality soon, good.

Here's an interesting article describing one of the disreputable tactics telecoms are using to try to stop it.

https://prospect.org/economy/09-21-2023-verrilli-gershengorn-bloomberg-net-neutrality-fcc/

[hector13]

A third round of voting - after a Republican meeting on Thursday apparently got very heated and they decided not to give McHenry more powers - results in a further increase the number of Republicans who voted against Jim Jordan. He’s at 25 now.

Apparently his supporters are threatening his colleagues for not supporting him because that’ll change their minds, sure. Jordan claims no responsibility and has asked that the threats to stop.

[Maximum™]

Cheeseybro took a deal, he had to accept a felony, unlike the two before him who got off with misdemeanors.

I'm gonna end up overdosing on popcorn at this rate.

Engoron told the orange dumbfuck if he keeps fucking around he'll be finding out in a jail cell... AND THIS IS JUST THE CIVIL TRIAL, which yeah, is potentially the scariest for him because it's going to absolutely crush any last illusion that he is a successful businessman or billionaire, but this one wasn't supposed to carry any sort of implications of getting locked up except he's just that much of a stupid fucking turd he can't stop himself.