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« Reply #51285 on: July 14, 2023, 07:09:57 am »

I get the feeling you are only going to get links that allow them to avoid making an argument themselves, or more emojis.

When someone just spams nonsense I like to pick my favorite topic and just hammer in just how wrong it is. Like the Biden's laptop nonsense. Apparently we are suppose to believe that the Biden family's laptop repair plans feature some random shop in a state they don't live in, ran by a legally blind Trump fan who has just told all sorts of weird fucking contradictory stories about what happened. And this guy decided that the proper thing to do with Hunter Biden's laptop (maybe multiple laptops? Again, contradictory stories) was to send it to Rudy Giuliani... Who then passed it around to bunch of other right-wing groups with no record of who had it. There were lots of claims about what was on the laptop, even so far as to claim child porn, but in the end they would only provide evidence of a couple of emails about how a drug addict used (probably) his Dad's position to get money from some company. It's not a surprising story and there is no evidence that Biden participated in these conversations. Yet it's one of the things republicans just attach themselves to like leeches. It's the best they can do.

I think the last "breaking news" about Hunter Biden's Laptop was a picture of Hunter going down a slide.... NAKED! ~DUN DUN DUUUUUUN~. Truly a treasure trove of valuable and important information for the right to focus on.
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« Reply #51286 on: July 14, 2023, 08:29:56 am »

I think we've already well-established at this point that the guy's an alt-right troll and that it's not even worth reading his drunken shitposts. :V
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"Hey idiots, someone hacked my account to call you all idiots! Wasn't me you idiots!" seems to stretch credulity a bit.

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« Reply #51287 on: July 14, 2023, 08:46:23 am »

Yeah, I mean, I like you Bumber, but we've had these same conversations before - your news sources are all kinds of fucked, dude.

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« Reply #51288 on: July 14, 2023, 02:13:00 pm »

That’s the third different tabloid that’s been used to justify a position (and the second one selling a book bro, do you even read more than the headline and maybe a few paragraphs?)

The Washington examiner article uses “sources” (which, having recently read up o the phone hacking scandal in the UK tabloid media, could mean anything from someone who actually worked for the FBI to someone they have hired to dig through trash or illegally obtain material) and “alleges” (DON’T SUE ME BRO) that the owner of Burisma called Biden Big Guy.

So… yeah. Biden being photographed with his son and his son’s friends? Conspiracy to enrich his family secretly.

Starver covered Trump and the insurrection.

The FBI didn’t force those guys to do that, they could have just said “nah we’re just talked shit because then we’re frustrated.” and that would’ve been the end of it. Much like ignorance, incompetence isn’t a defense. I don’t have blind faith in the FBI, I do have blind faith that when a group of folks’ orange demigod undermines the impartiality and reliability of the electoral system, people think change can only come about through violence.

In addition to the other six things on the page:

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4. Pressuring – and criminalizing – the work of election officials. Many new state laws don’t simply make it harder for citizens to vote, they make it tougher for non-partisan election workers to do their jobs. Georgia, Texas and Florida have created civil penalties and fines of up to $25,000 for minor, technical infractions – for the kind of help non-partisan officials offer when needed, or obstructing the view of partisan poll workers – and even opened them to criminal prosecution.

According to a Brennan Center and Bipartisan Policy Center study, a third of election workers report feeling unsafe in their jobs. As many as 25% say the toxic, bullying climate could cause them to leave their jobs. Their replacements, in positions that had once been non-partisan, non-competitive and volunteer? The big lie’s truest believers, seeking the offices some believe stole the 2020 election from them. This is a “five-alarm fire”, the Michigan secretary of state, Jocelyn Benson, told the New York Times.

Fakkharian being close to people doesn’t mean they approve of his views. I went to school with two people who have killed people, and I was at one point close to someone who dealt drugs. I am, funnily enough, neither a murderer or a drug dealer.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding - deliberate or otherwise - of what the masks were supposed to do and despite reams of posts on the forum correcting you, you still push this nonsense. Biden and Harris didn’t endorse witch doctors who believed some shite about demon sex in dreams making people gay or whatever madness that was.

Trump’s shutdown of travel from China was as xenophobic as it was ineffective because it didn’t apply to US citizens or permanent residents. Not much point in closing the door if you knock a hole in the wall eh.

Anyway. You’re… something. Not worth even the half hour I’ve spent on this, but yeah. Maybe find better sources than tabloids not selling their books?
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« Reply #51289 on: July 14, 2023, 02:30:39 pm »

I am, funnily enough, neither a murderer or a drug dealer.

That's exactly what a murderer and drug dealer would say!
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« Reply #51290 on: July 14, 2023, 02:35:15 pm »

I am, funnily enough, neither a murderer or a drug dealer.

That's exactly what a murderer and drug dealer would say!

Damn you figured out I meant both I mean here take this *hands TV a white powder*
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« Reply #51291 on: July 14, 2023, 07:25:19 pm »

Meanwhile, the Biden Administration declared a Stop-Loss for infantry and combat roles in the military. What that means is you're not allowed to quit or extended service may be activated. Talking to some vets I know, they say the last time this happened it was the prelude to invading Iraq. Other vets I've talked to say recruitment is especially low right now in all branches so it might be related to that.

I'm hoping for the latter and not the former. Whether it's Ukraine, China or Mexican drug cartels, they're all bad scenarios.
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« Reply #51292 on: July 14, 2023, 07:36:35 pm »

This has been the trend for a while. People entering recruitment age are more informed than ever, their parents are still bleeding heart liberals, and the benefits of military service are becoming less and less (really, the prospects of any non-poverty life in the US, no matter what you do) - perfect formula for unmotivated, non-patriotic youngsters.

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« Reply #51293 on: July 14, 2023, 11:22:41 pm »


I hope that regardless of political party or beliefs on Trump everyone here can all agree this is really fucking creepy right?
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« Reply #51294 on: July 14, 2023, 11:40:37 pm »

I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was intended to try and weed out trans girls. If that is the case, then the fact that it is somewhat creepy and arguably an invasion of privacy is an unimportant consequence in the minds of whoever is asking these questions.
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« Reply #51295 on: July 14, 2023, 11:57:11 pm »

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The Utah High School Activities Association is an organization of 138 high schools in the U.S. state of Utah that sponsor athletic activities in 25 sports and activities. More than 85,000 students compete annually in approximately 25,000 competitions among UHSAA member schools.

In case anyone was curious. It's an overarching body with control over many high schools rather than each high school district managing their own athletic programs. So yeah, I'd say it's an outright attempt to single out transwomen. And a violation of the privacy of everyone.
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« Reply #51296 on: July 15, 2023, 02:09:27 am »

It's 100% transphobe horseshit; those questions and that formatting is the exact same thing we've seen in multiple areas pushing that crap.

That it's skeevy as all hell on several fronts beyond that is just a side benefit to the scum promoting it. S'only one side of the US political sphere that's trying to protect child marriages and similar junk, and wouldn't you just know it, it's the same one that's willing to throw out creepy shit aimed at minors like those questions.
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« Reply #51297 on: July 15, 2023, 06:07:58 am »

Ok I looked into this a bit and it looks like this is a high school athlete health form. It seems that this question has been asked long before transpeople became republican's new target minority and the reasoning is that the stress caused by athletics can lead to some pretty serious health problems regarding menstruation. I've looked at NY's and Michigan's forms and NY doesn't have it but Michigan does, and I have to say that Michigan is pretty damned progressive right now, so I can say that the questions are not complete bullshit. However Michigan at least has an "optional" next to the questions and this doesn't remove the problem of the supreme court reversing rulings on privacy or the desire the right has to harass trans people, so it probably is a problem that they are asking it now. This could easily be put into the "for doctor to fill out" section and thus be protected information.

If you guys want to look up more forms from other stats, I just took the U(Utah)HSAA and replaced it with other state's initials, like NYHSAA or MHSAA.
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« Reply #51298 on: July 15, 2023, 07:14:17 am »

Yeah the question isn't new, but states (most prominently Florida, of course) have been moving to make the questions "less optional" and use unnecessarily anti-trans language.

I might have the wrong impression from arguing about this on Twitter couple months ago, but it feels like another attempt to violate reproductive privacy under the guise of transphobia.  With bonus transphobia.
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« Reply #51299 on: July 15, 2023, 07:55:08 pm »

I am, funnily enough, neither a murderer or a drug dealer.

That's exactly what a murderer and drug dealer would say!

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