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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #51210 on: July 03, 2023, 06:11:21 am »

Google to end news access in Canada after bill to pay news publishers passes
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jun/29/google-canada-online-news-act-publishers-content-law

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More DeSantis is weak news:
How does DeSantis doing? I had some weak hope that he might be able to win Trump and loose to Biden, but this doesn't seem very likely.
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« Reply #51211 on: July 03, 2023, 08:41:22 am »

I keep getting mail from his campaign here in South Carolina, but I always throw it away immediately since I see the word "woke" on it like 5 times even in passing.  I'm getting so tired of hearing that word I'm going to have to stop using it.  I'm going to have to start telling people "I stopped being asleep" instead or something.

Not really sure how he's doing in real terms.  The only tiny insight I have is the conservative subreddit that I peek at occasionally, and I saw he was getting raked over the coals even there a few times for some things like passing the bill about car sales in Florida.  Whether that actually means anything is a different matter, and I'm sure he lost very few supporters over that.  Checking back on other days seemed to show the usual support for him over Trump.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #51212 on: July 03, 2023, 01:23:46 pm »

WTF? Delaware wants to let businesses vote?  (Sure it's apparently local elections only... but what?)
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« Reply #51213 on: July 03, 2023, 02:09:18 pm »

As near as I can tell from a quick check, it's a delaware "city" (seaford, voting population ~5k), though the change has to be okay'd through legislature (it's passed the house after failing repeatedly, but won't be seen by the senate until next year). There's apparently a single digit number of other municipalities in the state that have already passed something similar. It mostly seems to be giving municipalities the legal grounds to do something that dumb, basically, rather than mandating it for the state.

To all appearances it's less "delaware wants to let businesses vote" and more "they're not super interested in caring about some piss-tiny town screwing themselves over".

E: Which, in fairness, is still not exactly a good thing, but it's a different sort and scale of shite, y'know?

E2: Though, with a bit more looking, it's more something GOP fucks are using to screw with people (because of course it is) as part of whatever mess is going on with a budget bill, than it is anything. Someone local or that actually cares more about delaware probably has a better grasp of details, but my fuckometer has hit zero so anyone interested'll have to do the research themselves :V
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #51214 on: July 03, 2023, 02:17:13 pm »

WTF? Delaware wants to let businesses vote?  (Sure it's apparently local elections only... but what?)

I tell you, you gotta be there to even get money.

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« Reply #51215 on: July 03, 2023, 02:31:48 pm »

WTF? Delaware wants to let businesses vote?  (Sure it's apparently local elections only... but what?)

I tell you, you gotta be there to even get money.

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« Reply #51216 on: July 03, 2023, 04:45:14 pm »

WTF? Delaware wants to let businesses vote?  (Sure it's apparently local elections only... but what?)

They're just trying to emulate the Republic from Star Wars.* Sure it contributed to the failure of the Republic, but who's keeping track?

*Y'know the Trade Federation, the bad guys with the droid army in the first prequel movie? They had a senate seat, and they weren't the only corporation with one.

More seriously, it's the sort of thing that should probably see a person put in jail for even suggesting, let alone allowing to get to the legal drafting or voting stage. It's about the clearest sign of being corrupt that I can think of short of a businessman literally handing a politician a sack with a dollar sign on it.
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« Reply #51217 on: July 03, 2023, 05:17:13 pm »

For what staggeringly little it's worth, the change doesn't just target businesses, but artificial entities in general. It includes nonprofits (including, probably tellingly, churches) as well as more traditional businesses, and wouldn't grant anyone local extra votes; it's there to allow non-resident, non-property owners the ability to vote in the relevant elections.

... there is, admittedly, a certain je ne sais quoi in GOP politicians pushing an election change to literally let people bring in non-residents and foreigners to influence an election, though.

That said, shit's mostly kayfabe -- seaford is a town with all of 8k population, 5k capable of voting, that sees elections with less than 1k votes fairly often. It's not exactly some kind of major population center, and it's not precedent either; there's other (also tiny, from what I could tell) municipalities in delware with similar provisions. It's dumb and shouldn't be allowed to pass and the city in question are idiots for trying to begin with, but as stakes go, they're small.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #51219 on: July 04, 2023, 06:14:37 pm »

Since when did social media companies give a shit what governments say?
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« Reply #51220 on: July 05, 2023, 05:27:13 am »

Wait, I thought all these poorly crafted and unconstitutionally restricting of legal free speech on the internet bills being proposed on the back of an international public scare campaign were said to have the goal of reducing exposure of vulnerable members of society to harmful content through reliance on our trusty legislators to determine what speech is allowed and how (when they aren't simply a tax levied by one corporation or sector on another.), for example requiring the notification of government regarding the access by citizens of speech that individuals in places of power do not approve of.

Spoiler: Rather hypocritical (click to show/hide)

Also that politico article has a tracking cookie or some such, which is unusual with politico; it seems this only happens with some articles as I read politico often, and also as a side note this is not unique to politico. For example the following link seems to not have such a cookie if you test it with the process I give below.
https://www.politico.eu/article/bulgaria-nikolai-denkov-pm-russia-influence-rumen-radev/

 I noticed it only because I did the following process this time in order to respond in this thread: To test this, use firefox and obtain noscript through it's add-ons menu. Use noscript's default settings on the page and then allow only politico.com in page permissions (this is required to read the article), then try to login to this forums without closing the firefox window (closing the politico tab is fine as the cookie will persist through that). Noscript will give a warning about potential identity theft, as it has noticed a suspicious cookie I assume (fixed by closing firefox, assumably as mine is set to clear all cookies on close). Maybe that kind of bullshit would be a better target for restrictive legislation? Yes, yes it would.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #51221 on: July 06, 2023, 11:33:43 pm »

The last US chemical warheads are expected to be dismantled today. This took a terribly long time and great expense because of the need to find a safe and environmentally sound means of destroying the things (previous methods were dumping them in the ocean or direct burning, which have Problems), as well as the sheer quantity of poison gas the US accumulated before negotiating the ban, but once completed there will be no pre-ban chemical weapons remaining on Earth.

This does not mean that there are no such weapons remaining in undeclared stockpiles maintained in violation of the ban, but it is still symbolically important.
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« Reply #51222 on: July 07, 2023, 03:10:10 pm »

Wisconsin’s Democratic governor uses a partial line veto to increase public school funding for 400 years, because lol.

It will likely be challenged legally, but it’s fun while it lasts.

Really should change the way public school is funded (by local property taxes, favouring the rich) but ah well.
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« Reply #51223 on: July 07, 2023, 03:17:25 pm »

Ah the hypocrisy of Republicans claiming censorship while unilaterally banning books and educational content. Fucking ghouls.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #51224 on: July 07, 2023, 03:27:14 pm »

Wisconsin’s Democratic governor uses a partial line veto to increase public school funding for 400 years, because lol.

It will likely be challenged legally, but it’s fun while it lasts.

Really should change the way public school is funded (by local property taxes, favouring the rich) but ah well.

I'm so happy we've had governor Evers.
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