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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #50820 on: April 21, 2023, 07:58:36 pm »

SC protects access to the Abortion drug that Texas tried to ban, 5 to 2. Alito and Thomas dissenting.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/21/politics/supreme-court-abortion-pill-mifepristone/index.html

Safe. For now.
It's probably worth noting they didn't exactly protect shit, just held off on anything definitive until the appeals involved play out. It'll at least put a pin in that particular bit of horseshit for a few months, but they shouldn't get credit for anything more than kicking a can down the road until they actually do something more than that :-\
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #50821 on: April 24, 2023, 11:17:22 am »

TUCKER CARLSON FIRED LITERALLY CRYING WITH HAPPINESS AND RELIEF
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« Reply #50822 on: April 24, 2023, 11:22:18 am »

I was going to post that.

BBC article on the matter.
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« Reply #50823 on: April 24, 2023, 11:37:45 am »

Fascists follow their uber traditions and lose.
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« Reply #50824 on: April 24, 2023, 11:41:52 am »

I'd expect to see him at some place like OAN very soon.
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« Reply #50825 on: April 24, 2023, 12:02:58 pm »

Heh. The Supreme Court is going to look at whether blocking critics from their personal social media accounts by politicians is in violation of the 1st amendment considering freedom of speech.

That's just silly.
Being blocked from responding to one or a few social media accounts is not taking away the freedom of speech of the blocked in any absolute way. It just means they need to vent their opinion on some other public place.

Imagine. Someone going to the National Bank and saying "I want to write my opinion on those sheets of special paper you use for printing money. I demand access to them! What? Access denied? Boo!! My freedom of speech!"
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #50826 on: April 24, 2023, 02:15:41 pm »

I'd expect to see him at some place like OAN very soon.
RT TV, maybe, heh. I've seen suggestion he might go back to CNN, since the change in leadership there. Hard to say, reporting I've seen points to the firing being quite sudden (as in Carlson might not have known until this morning), so it'll probably be a bit before anything shakes out on that front.

Good day and good riddance, in any case. Might not be a great tomorrow when the lying hatemonger gets replaced with someone similar, but for now it's nice.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #50827 on: April 24, 2023, 02:17:46 pm »

Him going back on CNN would be the least likely of all outcomes, given his history now.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #50828 on: April 24, 2023, 02:22:12 pm »

CNN fired Don Lemon shortly after Tucker left Fox
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« Reply #50829 on: April 24, 2023, 02:30:23 pm »

He seems nice. But apparently was fired for his commenting-style on air.

Frankly the fewer personalities we have on the news and the more anchors just say what happened, the better.
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« Reply #50830 on: April 24, 2023, 03:20:02 pm »

Tucker Carlson was increasingly too far right for Fox News (if you watch their main coverage and even their other pundits, there's a marked difference), and there's been a lot of rumors that most of the company wanted him gone long before this. He was also one of their highest rated personalities (largely because he actually had charisma and the ability to sound convincing), and the company's powers-that-be were afraid of taking a huge viewership hit without him. So he not only lingered, but grew more and more extreme as he realized he was untouchable.

Now, he's got them into a major lawsuit (which they lost, even if a settlement helped to stem the bleeding), they're staring down the barrel of multiple more, and they've got a colossal PR disaster going with it. That's enough "cons" to flip his "pros" right off the board.

There's no chance in hell that he'll wind up on CNN or MSNBC. The dying OANN and Newsmax networks, maybe, but they're in such poor shape right now that even that's chancy because he's a huge liability.
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« Reply #50831 on: April 24, 2023, 06:05:57 pm »

apparently tucker guy left stickers saying "I hate trump and I hate you all too" all over his office for his coworkers to see and clean up.

Tbh I dunno if this is a meme/clickbait or something that actually happened, but I was browsing reddit and saw a news article posted from some random site that had that as a title+description. I never clicked the link and it doesn't bother me enough to look for it again. But it made me laugh and its pretty believable for him to be that petty

in other news, probably better in russia/ukraine thread but it isn't about ukraine. according to AU news china gave russia "permission" (in quotes) to invade more european countries

https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/eastern-european-countries-scramble-after-china-gives-russia-permission-to-invade/news-story/57404535f5dc539d34c846a8fdef3bc9

what belongs probably here. Its pretty much confirmed china is supplying russia with drones (not weaponized apparently, but the russians put weapons on them) and weapons (that the russians have to assemble apparently). Seems like a weird way to circumvent "not supplying weapons to russia" that doesn't really count as circumventing it imo. Would US actually sanction china full stop like they've done to russia? Everything in the stores pretty much is from china, and my monitor I bought from amazon recently also came from china of all places lol. Didn't even know AOC monitors were based in china xD
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« Reply #50832 on: April 24, 2023, 06:28:00 pm »

China is so important to the global economy that heavy sanctions would be extremely painful for everybody that isn't China. It would take years to fully replace China's products from other sources (note, Biden and others are pushing hard to start doing that now, for this reason, which is one of the reasons there's so much investment into vital manufacturing sectors under the various economic policies), and probably cause a major recession if not an outright depression. So everybody that isn't China would like to avoid that if they can.

The global economy is so important to China that heavy sanctions would mean no more China. Despite their size, they aren't economically set up in a way that they can cruise fully internally for a while to tough things out, and the shock of suddenly losing all their major export customers would make Black Thursday look like a minor hiccup. China really wants to avoid that fate.  Note that this is also a disincentive for the rest of the world to avoid heavy sanctions, because a nation in those straits is all too likely to decide that a Short Victorious War is their only possible way out.

What this means is that sanctioning China would be akin to a duel of flamethrowers at ten paces, except one guy's got moderate protective gear and the other doesn't. It isn't a situation that the rest of the world is going to enter into unless they have literally no choice, such as China launching a Short Victorious War without the sanctions.
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« Reply #50833 on: April 24, 2023, 07:50:41 pm »

Heh. The Supreme Court is going to look at whether blocking critics from their personal social media accounts by politicians is in violation of the 1st amendment considering freedom of speech.

That's just silly.
Being blocked from responding to one or a few social media accounts is not taking away the freedom of speech of the blocked in any absolute way. It just means they need to vent their opinion on some other public place.

Imagine. Someone going to the National Bank and saying "I want to write my opinion on those sheets of special paper you use for printing money. I demand access to them! What? Access denied? Boo!! My freedom of speech!"

Closer to the "right to petition the government" part than standard freedom of speech. But there are other ways to do that online already, such as emailing your representative or something.
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« Reply #50834 on: April 24, 2023, 08:30:54 pm »

https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/eastern-european-countries-scramble-after-china-gives-russia-permission-to-invade/news-story/57404535f5dc539d34c846a8fdef3bc9

I think they're really just stating their own stance on Taiwan by supporting Russia. "Ex-Chinese countries don't exist." If/when they try to capture Taiwan, China will want the mantle of legitimacy for its actions by saying Taiwan wasn't a sovereign nation to begin with.

So I wouldn't really take it as a sign of anything. Not like China is going to try to assist Russia in the takeover of Eastern Europe. Russia can barely manage one war, anyways.
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