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[MrRoboto75]

[Sad trombone]

[EuchreJack]

It's hardly significant.  Republicans have a slim majority in the House, Democrats have a slim majority (maybe) in the Senate, the President is a Democrat, and the Supreme Court has a solid Conservative bloc.

Nothing was going to happen anyways.  At least Santos can't be sworn into office until a Speaker is appointed...

[hector13]

It certainly does not make the Republicans look good. They’ve tried 6 times despite very little changing to actually make a vote succeed.

This is the naked ambition of Kevin McCarthy expecting everyone to roll over for him the same way he rolled over for Trump, versus the naked ambition of a pool of Trumpettes trying to get cushy jobs on committees and have a little extra power in the House, rather than getting on with the job of representing their constituents.

[EuchreJack]

It certainly does not make the Republicans look good. They’ve tried 6 times despite very little changing to actually make a vote succeed.

This is the naked ambition of Kevin McCarthy expecting everyone to roll over for him the same way he rolled over for Trump, versus the naked ambition of a pool of Trumpettes trying to get cushy jobs on committees and have a little extra power in the House, rather than getting on with the job of representing their constituents.

Maybe their constituents hate Kevin McCarthy? 

[hector13]

Only the ones in those 20 congressional seats, apparently :p

[scriver]

So is this one of those "the government cannot proceed until this thing is done" things? I want to make an "and then John was the Belgium" joke

[EuchreJack]

So is this one of those "the government cannot proceed until this thing is done" things? I want to make an "and then John was the Belgium" joke

Yup. You may fire when ready.

[martinuzz]

6x fail for McCarthy.

I really hope that this internal strife will bring about the end of the Republican Party. Ofcourse it won't, but hey, a man can dream.

[EuchreJack]

6x fail for McCarthy.

I really hope that this internal strife will bring about the end of the Republican Party. Ofcourse it won't, but hey, a man can dream.

It's more likely the more extreme elements will gain additional power, and McCarthy will have to cater to their agenda to pass legislation.
It's a power play, not an implosion.

[Lord Shonus]

He's tried to do just that, and his promised concessions have only won him 10 or so of the 18 he needs. The bigger problem the GOP faces is that McCarthy is probably the most popular potential candidate - anybody that veers much more toward the HFC is going to start losing the more moderate wing (which, to be explicitly clear, does still exist).

This standoff can only go on so long. Either the HFC breaks and goes McCarthy, or people start crossing the aisle. Either a Republican that can get enough Dem votes and a large enough chunk of GOP voters, or else you get 20-30 GOP moderates to go for a conservative-wing Democrat. Which of these three scenarios is most likely? Damn if I know.

((There is one fourth possibility - that enough people from one side or the other keel over and die, changing the math to let somebody win. This is not likely))

[Dostoevsky]

Worth noting they haven't actually won him the 10, merely gotten the person informally leading a group of maybe 10ish to say things are moving in a good direction.

The main issue isn't whether McCarthy is willing to sell his soul further (he always is), but whether he feels that the mainstream Rs are willing to accept just how much of the farm he's willing to sell. He made another big step towards fully giving in last night, but there's still a bit more to go for the frog in the boiling water.

It's hardly significant.  Republicans have a slim majority in the House, Democrats have a slim majority (maybe) in the Senate, the President is a Democrat, and the Supreme Court has a solid Conservative bloc.

And the main significance (in my eyes, at least) is looking ahead to the debt ceiling and appropriations. This summer the debt ceiling will need to be raised again, risking sovereign debt default and potential global economic turmoil, while this fall the government needs affirmative funding again, risking... well, a lot less than the debt ceiling but still national disruption via government shutdown.

It was already looking like the House speaker wasn't going to survive either of those votes, but with the concessions McCarthy is making a speaker may have some serious difficulty even trying those votes. I'm honestly getting pretty worried about the debt ceiling.

[hector13]

The BBC have given up apparently. The subheading for the past four or so votes has remained the same, they just update the number in the headline.

It’s at 10 now.

[martinuzz]

I love how some of the Democrats are bringing popcorn

[Starver]

Wake me up when it gets into the 130s...

/goes into hibernation for the duration

[Frumple]

If it goes on that long it might manage to hit that upcoming major economic whatever it is in a month or three. You probably wouldn't need to be woken up at that point, because the world economy would be imploding and you'd likely be plenty awake :V