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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #47730 on: February 24, 2022, 06:00:25 am »

I have yet to see anyone recognising the fact that Biden's warning of an imminent Russian invasion was truthful. He had been called a liar and (ironically) even warmonger for weeks now. Oh, well. I'm doing it now. Thank you Biden for telling the truth. Never thought I'd say that about an American president.
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« Reply #47731 on: February 24, 2022, 06:07:41 am »

He also said he would support Ukraine. Let's hope is true. If this does not stop here things will still scalate and when the leverage is worst.
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« Reply #47732 on: February 24, 2022, 08:14:20 am »

If we had a Trump style president (that wasn't Putin's bitch) as a leader and they said they were moving the US army into Ukraine a month ago and that if Putin invaded he would massacre the Russian army then as a logical person Putin wouldn't have invaded.---


A "Trump-style" president would, like Trump, be a loudmouth who makes a lot of threats, but also an obvious coward with no willingness to follow through on them. The only opponents a "Trump-style" president would be willing to attack would be ones that can't fight back, and he could bully forever without repercussion.

I just resent any idea of Trump having any positive qualities at all, because he didn't have any. The only good thing he's ever done was convince a large enough portion of the American populace to stop being apathetic about politics and to throw his ass out of office.
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« Reply #47733 on: February 24, 2022, 03:04:00 pm »



If we had a Trump style president (that wasn't Putin's bitch) as a leader and they said they were moving the US army into Ukraine a month ago and that if Putin invaded he would massacre the Russian army then as a logical person Putin wouldn't have invaded.

Or it would have been a repeat of the 1917 Spring Offensive, with an attempt to start and win the war before US forces made it to the theater.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #47734 on: February 24, 2022, 03:12:27 pm »

Honestly, it seems like that now. Hold territory before the other nations can coordinate a response. Digging Russia out of Ukraine at that point is going to be prohibitively costly.
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« Reply #47735 on: February 25, 2022, 01:33:36 am »

If we had a Trump style president (that wasn't Putin's bitch) as a leader and they said they were moving the US army into Ukraine a month ago and that if Putin invaded he would massacre the Russian army then as a logical person Putin wouldn't have invaded.---


A "Trump-style" president would, like Trump, be a loudmouth who makes a lot of threats, but also an obvious coward with no willingness to follow through on them. The only opponents a "Trump-style" president would be willing to attack would be ones that can't fight back, and he could bully forever without repercussion.

I just resent any idea of Trump having any positive qualities at all, because he didn't have any. The only good thing he's ever done was convince a large enough portion of the American populace to stop being apathetic about politics and to throw his ass out of office.

You're forgetting that Putin is a Trump-style president.  It's why Putin attacked AFTER Trump left office.  They got along handsomely because they're basically the same sort of person.
The US President Biden is SENILE.
Seriously, watch Biden's speeches.  He is reading a fucking script, he can't answer questions.  Compare how he sounds to how everyone else in the US Government sounds.

I don't fucking care which political party you support.  The US Head of State needs to mentally competent NOW.  Impeach his ass, let his Vice President take over.
Step down Joe.

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« Reply #47736 on: February 25, 2022, 02:34:49 am »

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they're basically the same sort of person.

remember that time trump had a job in a national spy/secuity agency?
remember trump running circles around his interviewers?
remember trump giving a speech in the bundestag in german?



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The US Head of State needs to mentally competent NOW.  Impeach his ass, let his Vice President take over.

Yes judges are well versed in descalating things without having appeal to the full brunt of their unearned authority.




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« Reply #47737 on: February 25, 2022, 02:51:52 am »

Judges don't impeach Presidents.  The Chief Justice basically just keep the Senators in line. After two impeachment trials*, you don't know that basic fact of American Politics?

Ideally, the Democrats & his family would have a nice long talk with Biden and suggest he step down for the good of the country.
...ironically, if he is truly as senile as I think he is, that could go many different ways.  His adamant refusal is one possible response.

Also ironically, I was trying to figure out if the parallel of Putin and Hitler was accurate.  Your post clearly indicates that it was, as Hitler did all those things.

Trump is obviously Winston Churchill.  My mistake.  :P

*Regarding Trump, I can't credit knowledge of Clinton's Impeachment trial.

Fun fact: The 25th Amendment, Section 3 is apparently only applicable to colonoscopy.  It was only during that specific procedure that any acting president has let their Vice-President take over.  Presumably, the Chief Executive is adverse to admitting it might not be competent...

We must be better prepared to cope with the frailties of man in this nuclear age. The national interest demands it; the 25th Amendment can help. We hope this report contributes to knowledge for decision making. -REPORT OF THE COMMISSION ON PRESIDENTIAL DISABILITY AND THE TWENTY-FIFTH AMENDMENT (1988)
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« Reply #47738 on: February 25, 2022, 04:38:55 am »

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let his Vice President take over.

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let his Vice President take over.

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let his Vice President take over.

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let his Vice President take over.

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let his Vice President take over.

Nice condescion on the words you put in my mouth

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« Reply #47739 on: February 25, 2022, 05:12:17 am »

If the President is not mentally competent to do the job, then he/she/eh should allow their vice president to take over.

This is not a political issue.  All Americans should agree on that point.  The question of whether or not it benefits your party should not matter.

I'm not interested in reading you ever again.
Why should I give a fuck when you're not reading anything that I say?
You're just mindlessly reacting without any reading or critical analysis, so your refusal to read what I'm writing is actually a net gain.
So please, do stop reading what I'm writing.
Since you're accusing me of doing to you what you are in fact doing to me, you must be a Democrat.

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« Reply #47740 on: February 25, 2022, 05:31:51 am »

So you want Kamala Harris to take office? How that would go???
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« Reply #47741 on: February 25, 2022, 05:33:27 am »

So you want Kamala Harris to take office? How that would go???
Is that rhetorical, or do you want to know the actual procedures?

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« Reply #47742 on: February 25, 2022, 05:39:38 am »

Both?
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« Reply #47743 on: February 25, 2022, 06:20:45 am »

I'll admit, I let my anger at the situation get the better of me.  A succession crisis in the US at this very moment should be avoided if at all possible.

But yeah, overall I want Kamala Harris to replace Biden.

There are three mechanisms available:
1) Biden retires in favor of Kamala Harris.  It protects the integrity of everyone and can be done smoothly.  If Biden has indeed been suffering mental health issues, it is probably the preferred and most likely option.
2) Kamala Harris invokes Section 4 of the 25th Amendment with the assistance of the Cabinet.  Alternatively, Congress creates/empowers a body to investigate the mental fitness of the President with consent of Kamala Harris, who would ultimately have to concur with their findings in order to invoke Section 4 of the 25th Amendment
3) The House of Representatives initiates Impeachment Proceedings under "High crimes and misdemeanors".  The term "misdemeanors" is not the same as in the Criminal Law usage.  One or more prior indiscretions would be being examined under a microscope. Assuming/remaining in office with a known severe issue that impairs judgment could be argued as similar to assuming/remaining in office with a known conflict of interest.  Behavior is grounds for impeachment as bringing the Presidency "into contempt, ridicule, and disgrace".  This is the option a Republican Majority could attempt if one existed, as it does not require the cooperation of the President or the Vice-President.

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« Reply #47744 on: February 25, 2022, 08:09:56 am »

If we had a Trump style president (that wasn't Putin's bitch) as a leader and they said they were moving the US army into Ukraine a month ago and that if Putin invaded he would massacre the Russian army then as a logical person Putin wouldn't have invaded.---


A "Trump-style" president would, like Trump, be a loudmouth who makes a lot of threats, but also an obvious coward with no willingness to follow through on them. The only opponents a "Trump-style" president would be willing to attack would be ones that can't fight back, and he could bully forever without repercussion.

I just resent any idea of Trump having any positive qualities at all, because he didn't have any. The only good thing he's ever done was convince a large enough portion of the American populace to stop being apathetic about politics and to throw his ass out of office.

You're forgetting that Putin is a Trump-style president.  It's why Putin attacked AFTER Trump left office.  They got along handsomely because they're basically the same sort of person.
The US President Biden is SENILE.
Seriously, watch Biden's speeches.  He is reading a fucking script, he can't answer questions.  Compare how he sounds to how everyone else in the US Government sounds.

I don't fucking care which political party you support.  The US Head of State needs to mentally competent NOW.  Impeach his ass, let his Vice President take over.
Step down Joe.

Who pays you for this kind of bullshit? Russia or Trumpist movements?
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