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« Reply #47145 on: December 04, 2021, 05:40:51 am »

The school shooter's parents have been arrested in Detroit, after they fled and tried to go into hiding when they heard there were charges filed against them.
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« Reply #47146 on: December 04, 2021, 08:58:18 am »

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« Reply #47147 on: December 04, 2021, 09:36:36 am »

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Which while the article is about russia, if anything starts up...its almost certainly that if russia invades ukraine, china will invade taiwan at the same time. I don't think they are the best of friends, but an enemy of an enemy and all...and they do military practices together. I wouldn't even call china/russia a pseudo-alliance tbh, just a common cause I guess they both have. Either way, it be a rather strategic move for them both to move on their target at the same time.
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Yeah, rough agreements of common cause, followed by roughly concurrent invasions, as happened with WWI and WWII, and earlier wars when "the world" was less than the entire biosphere.

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« Reply #47148 on: December 04, 2021, 09:44:20 am »

Dont think it will be threated as a world war, but separared conflicts.
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« Reply #47149 on: December 04, 2021, 10:07:27 am »

A lot of wars (smaller domestic wars between nations or inside nations and larger wars) start because of bad economic times.

This is actually the only reason I think China will continue to abstain from active wars/invasion. The economy here is doing well, with a consistent improvement of living standards across the board (for people who are citizens, at least). If it weren't for their absolute ceaseless desire to measure dicks, war wouldn't even be on the table, as the average person holds no hatred (or really, any opinion at all) on other countries, and the government still has some fear of The People left in them.

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« Reply #47150 on: December 04, 2021, 10:24:05 am »

it can't be a world war, nobody's invaded Poland yet
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« Reply #47151 on: December 04, 2021, 11:41:14 am »

A lot of wars (smaller domestic wars between nations or inside nations and larger wars) start because of bad economic times.

This is actually the only reason I think China will continue to abstain from active wars/invasion. The economy here is doing well, with a consistent improvement of living standards across the board (for people who are citizens, at least). If it weren't for their absolute ceaseless desire to measure dicks, war wouldn't even be on the table, as the average person holds no hatred (or really, any opinion at all) on other countries, and the government still has some fear of The People left in them.

Possibly, though China's economy is extremely terrible and falling apart, could give THEM the reason. The US economy is doing good especially post-pandemic, but china/russia not so much. But I still hope no wars happen, and if any do its localized instead of global.
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« Reply #47152 on: December 04, 2021, 12:41:50 pm »

A lot of wars (smaller domestic wars between nations or inside nations and larger wars) start because of bad economic times.

This is actually the only reason I think China will continue to abstain from active wars/invasion. The economy here is doing well, with a consistent improvement of living standards across the board (for people who are citizens, at least). If it weren't for their absolute ceaseless desire to measure dicks, war wouldn't even be on the table, as the average person holds no hatred (or really, any opinion at all) on other countries, and the government still has some fear of The People left in them.

Possibly, though China's economy is extremely terrible and falling apart, could give THEM the reason. The US economy is doing good especially post-pandemic, but china/russia not so much. But I still hope no wars happen, and if any do its localized instead of global.

"Over here" is China for delphonso.

Though in part I wonder if any states is doing better now "post"-pandemic than pre-pandemic, I thought "doing well" was measured relatively to other states/hypothetical outcomes these days? If the economy (as vague as a concept that is) really is doing better "post-" anywhere, I will be amazed.

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« Reply #47153 on: December 04, 2021, 01:07:24 pm »

Certain indicators are up relative to the start of the plague, stateside, yes. "Better" is a lot harder to say, there's a lot of really unusual shit going on right now. Inflation starting to stop being artificially and unhealthily low, workers agitating or walking off/refusing jobs, weird things going on with supply transportation and whatnot, major conflict staring down the barrel related to eviction and housing... it's kinda' hard to tell what the fuck's going on, and several groups are actively trying to distort perceptions of things (chucking around massive lies about available supplies and costs, gaslighting folks about recent price changes, etc.).

So, like. You can talk to two people in the same area and largely same economic situation and get wildly different opinions on if the economy's doing better or not, and the metrics used to measure them are currently wonky as hell relative to before the plague.

e: Like, just yesterday I was overhearing folks talking about the price of lettuce, reporting like 4 buck heads. I went and checked a place doing curbside and the price there was literally less than half what they were saying, with shops less than a hour distant from each other and largely serving the same demographics. In my experience it's up a little from a while ago, but not hugely. From their view the price has like friggin' doubled over the last couple years. These are people, same area, basically same financial situation, wildly different perceptions of the costs of even a single sort of produce.
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« Reply #47154 on: December 04, 2021, 03:05:38 pm »

it can't be a world war, nobody's invaded Poland yet
That's WWIV.

WWIII is going to be caused by some stupid shit in the Balkans.

And Ukraine is Balkan-lite, with pan-Russian nationalists fucking around with it.
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« Reply #47155 on: December 04, 2021, 03:24:29 pm »

Both China and Russia are showing strong signs of preparing for the fabled Short Victorious War, to help counter internal unrest. The primary difference between the two at the moment is that domestic trouble in Russia is already a reality,  while in China it is only going to happen if something goes wrong with much-needed economic restructuring.

That makes it very unlikely that we will see both crises happen at once. China isn't likely to risk all-out war with a nuclear-peer (Biden has been quite open about having commitments regarding Taiwan) unless it seems very likely. And they won't be at that point until later if ever.
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« Reply #47156 on: December 04, 2021, 03:30:35 pm »

I found this NY Times article on the arguments about the recent Mississippi abortion law interesting.
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« Reply #47157 on: December 04, 2021, 06:19:01 pm »

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« Reply #47158 on: December 04, 2021, 06:32:08 pm »

I'm also behind a paywall, I just press "stop" while it's loading to read it.
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« Reply #47159 on: December 04, 2021, 06:40:09 pm »

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