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« Reply #46320 on: September 23, 2021, 02:42:30 pm »

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« Reply #46321 on: September 23, 2021, 02:51:01 pm »

But plenty of places show they are better for living with free markets or without heavy interventionism and without going full soviet or even socialist. Any government that can actually put the well being of it's people before stealing everything isn't bolted to the ground (and sometimes even that) can do a good job and have the potential of becoming a good place to live.

But this is besides to point of the post, it wasn't about me. It's a call to actual facts and people needing to put the vaccine. You wanna get rid of masks and all that shit quickly, put the darn vaccine please. And maybe keep the masks whenever YOU have a bug from now on like the are used to do in Asia to avoid spreading them on daily basis to.
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« Reply #46322 on: September 23, 2021, 03:01:30 pm »

Expecting that one's interpretation of conservatism to play well with the American republican party also strikes me as a bit amusing to hear from someone from Venezuela.

Needless to say, basically the entire voter base for that party, and most of the actual politicians, would be less than receptive to the political opinions of basically anyone south of the Rio Grande, regardless of ethnicity nor whether your political opinions mesh with the party line.

They already soundly reject even calls from politicians from within their own party.
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« Reply #46323 on: September 23, 2021, 03:07:46 pm »

C'est la vie? It's weird sometimes.

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« Reply #46324 on: September 23, 2021, 03:17:21 pm »

reduced but effective government,
That's a red[1] flag right there. If it's effective it's still way too large for the kind of people we're talking about. ;)

[1] As in Communist!
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« Reply #46325 on: September 23, 2021, 03:17:40 pm »

It's particularly shitty that we have vaccine doses and people are refusing to use them, when other countries don't have them.  I think NPR (radio) yesterday said the vaccination rate in Africa is like 4-6%?  And Baal's vaccine is some Chinese thing instead of the brands we have?  One of the foreign officials claimed that they're even willing to pay for the Pfizer/Moderna vaccinations but that even future production is sold out to wealthy nations.  She called it a zero-sum game.

It shouldn't be zero-sum, the companies should have made more.  A long delay was perfectly understandable, but why is there a lack of quantity NOW?  Is it really just because America and other wealthy nations want booster shots?  I honestly don't know.  Did we lose that many doses to mismanagement?  Did vaccine skepticism result in a lot of doses going bad?

Surely the corporations tried to make enough for everybody... right?   :(
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« Reply #46326 on: September 23, 2021, 03:46:40 pm »

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« Reply #46327 on: September 23, 2021, 05:02:20 pm »

(Blanket statements are all bad!)
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« Reply #46328 on: September 23, 2021, 05:11:22 pm »

Something something only Sith deal in absolutes.
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« Reply #46329 on: September 23, 2021, 06:06:00 pm »

anewname, you have to recognize that pushing the blame onto Cruz and Gaetz as outliers is a coping mechanism. These guys aren't on the fringe - they're hugely influential to the Republican party. They are who the news follows, who represent the Republicans, and who shape policy and stances of the party as a whole. Look at the previous RNC - Golden statues of Trump and panels on how to deal with "being cancelled on Twitter". Like it or not, Cruz and Gaetz are the new norm for the GOP, they're not outliers. Appointments of judges and any other officials is going to aim at the middle of the party, which is consistently moving further Right and further from any reality.

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« Reply #46330 on: September 23, 2021, 06:13:34 pm »


I'm on board with a lot of that. But really, replace "government" with "state". Public governing bodies (someone has to manage the infrastructure and public funds) are good but the monopoly of violence afforded to our governance, not so much. Our "law enforcement" systems in the state basically only report to themselves which is why all the protests.

I also don't know why people are so up-in-arms over free markets like they're only Capitalist. Free markets are fine? But the workers not owning their labor sucks. I'd like to see Democracy in the workplace. Unions for everyone, CEOs should be held accountable to them and not some dumb people who just want their money to make more money screw the consequences.

anewname, you have to recognize that pushing the blame onto Cruz and Gaetz as outliers is a coping mechanism. These guys aren't on the fringe - they're hugely influential to the Republican party. They are who the news follows, who represent the Republicans, and who shape policy and stances of the party as a whole. Look at the previous RNC - Golden statues of Trump and panels on how to deal with "being cancelled on Twitter". Like it or not, Cruz and Gaetz are the new norm for the GOP, they're not outliers. Appointments of judges and any other officials is going to aim at the middle of the party, which is consistently moving further Right and further from any reality.
Yeah, the Republican party is basically already set on running DeSantis for President in 2024 they're grooming him so hard. It's a growing trend. Not to mention Marjorie Taylor Greene and Boebert being certifiably conspiracy nuts and Gingrich still being Gingrich. It's not going away until the party does at this point. There's a bit of fight from more "traditional" Republicans still, and it's hopefully going to cause a split BUT they're more likely to just moan while voting in step with the radicals.

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« Reply #46331 on: September 23, 2021, 08:01:30 pm »

The Gamestop thing also demonstrated that when regular people actually do hit a good idea the system will actively try have pre-emptively stacked the deck to fuck those individuals over to protect companies that're out to game the system. for profits

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« Reply #46332 on: September 24, 2021, 02:06:19 am »

The Gamestop thing also demonstrated that when regular people actually do hit a good idea the system will actively try have pre-emptively stacked the deck to fuck those individuals over to protect companies that're out to game the system. for profits
pfft I thought that that was the original post and you’d just reposted it wholesale; a ‘ftfy’ wouldn’t have been out of place
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« Reply #46333 on: September 24, 2021, 05:07:06 pm »

Apropos of nothing, but I thought Ameripol would appreciate hearing this...

One of the apps I willingly support by viewing in-app ads just gave me one ad for a Muslim Dating App one moment, and one from Fox News shortly after.

They've obviously got me pinned down fairly accurately in their database, right..?

(To be fair, I also have had a Christian Dating App pop up that way, before. Maybe they just think I need to find someone new, and they're not too bothered if it's Dan Bongino or Shamima Begum.)
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« Reply #46334 on: September 24, 2021, 06:51:01 pm »

I live five minutes from the WA border and I had a full-screen popup today for a bluetooth-based contact tracer from the Washington Health Department.

why the FUCK wasn't this developed sooner? It pings nearby phones with the same app over bluetooth (a secure protocol) and checks if they've reported a positive test in the past 14 days, then alerts you that you've been near/in contact with someone who might be contagious. All anonymously and locally without "scary gubmint tracking" due to the design of bluetooth.

God I'd love to see something like this become popular enough to actually be useful.
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