I don't think one side particularly pushes for voter suppression as an actual goal but if you think they are being manipulated to or they do it out of some misled form of racial, social, or cultural discrimination, well, that could be possible, but I respectfully believe that more American citizens today want equality for all more than yesterday.
The last bit is true, but that's because the GOP and american conservatism in general is physically outnumbered in the US; voter suppression and depression is literally what's keeping them as politically relevant as they are. GOP politicians and pundits, and their predecessors, absolutely are pushing for voter suppression as an actual goal, and have been since basically the founding of the bloody country, largely because they realize their odious horseshit of an ideology is unpopular and cannot be realized if everyone has a say. That was true at the time of the 3/5ths, it was true during Jim Crow, it's true now when you have open calls among US conservatives for fascism and the deconstruction of american democracy alongside constant attempts to disenfranchise citizens and make the voting process more difficult.
There is not even the shade of both sides when it comes to voter suppression and a healthy electoral system in the US. The GOP and those before it have been attempting to sabotage our democracy for political gain for decades to centuries, and they're only getting more desperate about it as public sentiment builds further against them and the numbers to enforce that continues to grow.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_lawshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_Warhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)
Overall I agree but there is more historical nuance to the situation that people do not usually know about the debate the GOP weren't originally the party of slavery, jim crow, etc. the Democrats were but obviously they are not the same people today, the Democrats did a historical push away from that bad history and always adamantedly state that the parties switched. A lot more of you know more about the switch than I do and are passionate about it, go ahead and go over the great migration, the hippie generation, the dixiecrats, I have heard it all and researched it myself but I have other opinions to add.
The GOP weren't the original party of slavery, but neither were the Democrats, they have both changed drastically. People should take this information in positively and instead of push for a realization that neither party has to be the party of that history and that people can be more rational about american politics.
Do not fear rationality and truth, the reason american politics is the way it is I think is because both the founding party of the nation (and the other party that split off from it) finds themselves entwined with lies. Some individuals have genuine, passionate, good feelings about who they are and others want to present a position of power, act edgier, more devious, I guess. That exists in both parties it is just easier to see and to pick out when you distance yourself from it.
But observe what happens when there are lies people have to frantically cover them up, tell people to shut up, threaten them, kill them, etc. It's a whole lot of work and I think it's tragic, each generation is born innocent of the sins of the fathers yet each generation has to feel obligated to join their fathers, lie, cheat, steal, and kill for them. I see a repeated rant on several internet forums recently "We have no chance of changing this generation, we've already given up on them, we will go for teaching their children and changing their children's side" I think they have done that over and over again throughout history and over and over again this has been the result.
It is a never ending cycle, and that is politics, it is the perversion of truth to keep winning over the innocent, yet ignorant new generation that has never been exposed to a rote set of propaganda, repeated over and over again, and it works each time because people have to learn before they know any better.
Some People believe that most people don't learn, don't know any better, and perhaps believe that the harsh truth of reality that they therefore don't deserve freedom. They feel that most people deserve to die and suffer. They think they are special and excluded from these harsh judgements on other people. They have no effect if they are not in power, but some of them are unfortunately in power, through trust funds, through inheritances, wills, corporations, nobility, and other entities that allow power to be passed after death.
I think the tragedy is that even they are in the process of learning, they are sheltered from the world through the process of their privilege and whatever age or whatever sinful actions they have done there are common children elsewhere that have had the next revelation they haven't had, that you just live life, bear with it, strive above that and succeed. To try to destroy other people in the process of learning you destroy yourself, give yourself issues to stress over, like covering up crimes, covering up lies, etc. On an objective stance it's a lot of work and time wasted.
I think the tragedy further is that their Forefathers, who earned their wealth and established a position of power that they couldn't enjoy themselves after a lifetime of hard work and dying, and could only pass down to their children to enjoy the fruits of their labor, knew that revelation and had to have the grit to withstand people in order to have them work together and create wealth, create nations, innovate, and do great works.
Their Children lack that grit and instead lash out emotionally, harming the people, sometimes with discrimination like through race, sex, or culture, and other times with no apparent discrimination, but it is still negative, it is random harm. That harm multiplied through power and big moves makes a lot of mess.
I don't believe it will ever change even if more people learn. It's just, the way we've been going, we will never reach utopia. We might take longer to reach even a level of luxury, entertainment, and comfort even People used to enjoy and could have enjoyed if people just withstood each other. There's a lot of nuanced footwork all across the nation and across the world that needs to be done by real people every day. They have to drag themselves out of bed fighting with themselves and fighting with their own instincts to just say fuck it. Throw a wrench into all of that and it doesn't take much for people to tantrum spiral like dwarf fortress.
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