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[Starver]

_{did nobody think my librarian joke was funny}

I know how it feels

Shush!

[Frumple]

oh lol

GOP malfeasance appears to have fucked them; that horseshit ten hour overnight bill read intended to delay plague relief led to present dems voting to reduce the overall consideration time from 20 hours to 3, with not enough scumshit republicans left in the chamber to stop it -- estimation I've seen is that (due to the overnight horseshit not happening during normal hours) the GOP's delaying sabotage crap just accelerated the relief bill by like two full days.

Here's hoping it's as good a thing as it looks like, ahaha!

[Dostoevsky]

Keep in mind that the effort to drag this out isn't a universal Republican one, but more Ron Johnson and a few other delinquents. I half expect McConnell to shank him if he drags this out long enough.

[Iduno]

Neither party has our interests in mind, which is the main issue with a 2-party system or other duopoly.

https://twitter.com/TheNYSocialist/status/1367907295364005898

[Random_Dragon]

Now that the cheeto has been evicted, it's time to start work on purging both parties, yes.

[feelotraveller]

The class dynamics described in 1984 are extremely pro-communism, yes. That's why Winston Smith's rebellion as part of the feted-but-surveilled Outer Party is futile, and only an uprising of the proles could ever end the Party's dominance.

Yeah, look out for those gambling debt-ridden proles, hyped up on porn and alcohol.  Next thing you know they'll be storming the capitol.  Bloody communists.  (Only in America...  )

[Lord Shonus]

Most of the capitol rioters were upper-middle class. The reports of money troubles all appear to be of the "keeping up with the Joneses" type, not the "got no monies" one.

[WealthyRadish]

The class dynamics described in 1984 are extremely pro-communism, yes. That's why Winston Smith's rebellion as part of the feted-but-surveilled Outer Party is futile, and only an uprising of the proles could ever end the Party's dominance.

Yeah, look out for those gambling debt-ridden proles, hyped up on porn and alcohol.  Next thing you know they'll be storming the capitol.  Bloody communists.  (Only in America...  )

I'm not following the implication here, but the use of the word "proles" is from the book, not an editorial addition by MSH.

[delphonso]

oh lol

GOP malfeasance appears to have fucked them; that horseshit ten hour overnight bill read intended to delay plague relief led to present dems voting to reduce the overall consideration time from 20 hours to 3, with not enough scumshit republicans left in the chamber to stop it -- estimation I've seen is that (due to the overnight horseshit not happening during normal hours) the GOP's delaying sabotage crap just accelerated the relief bill by like two full days.

Here's hoping it's as good a thing as it looks like, ahaha!

It's a shame the dems were completely helpless about the $15 minimum wage. It's almost like they are competent to get things done but are actively choosing to crumble on truly progressive points.

It is almost exactly like that.

[MrRoboto75]

We've tried nothing, and we're all out of ideas!

[Lord Shonus]

They have exactly 50 seats in the Senate. Unless they can get sufficient Republicans to counterbalance, a single Democrat dissent will result in a fail. What do you expect them to do? Force uncertain members of the party to vote Yea at gunpoint? Throw the whole thing away in a fit of pique that they can't get everything they wanted?

They didn't pass the $15 because they did not have the votes to do it. They did not have the votes to do it because too many purple-state D senators did not think their constituents would approve of supporting it. What magic wand do you expect them to wave to change that?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

What do you expect them to do? Force uncertain members of the party to vote Yea at gunpoint?

That would be far more competence than I've seen the Democrats display in my lifetime.

Throw the whole thing away in a fit of pique that they can't get everything they wanted?

*anything

They didn't pass the $15 because they did not have the votes to do it. They did not have the votes to do it because too many purple-state D senators did not think their constituents would approve of supporting it. What magic wand do you expect them to wave to change that?

As strong majorities of nearly every demographic support raising the minimum wage, the problem is not the constituents, the problem is the Senators themselves. Or in other words: they're a shit party.

Electing people who are galaxy brained enough to actually think voting down the minimum wage is a good idea is bad enough, but more to the point the liberal ideology of the Democratic Party ensures it does not wholly matter what the individual senators believe. It only matters what the capitalists holding their leashes are interested in. The latter is far more consequential in my judgement, given how the Democrats behave when in minority vs. how gun-shy they are in majority.

If there had been 61 Democratic senators, they would have whittled themselves into this same outcome.

[feelotraveller]

The class dynamics described in 1984 are extremely pro-communism, yes. That's why Winston Smith's rebellion as part of the feted-but-surveilled Outer Party is futile, and only an uprising of the proles could ever end the Party's dominance.

Yeah, look out for those gambling debt-ridden proles, hyped up on porn and alcohol.  Next thing you know they'll be storming the capitol.  Bloody communists.  (Only in America...  )

I'm not following the implication here, but the use of the word "proles" is from the book, not an editorial addition by MSH.

Oh absolutely.  In the book the 'proles' (= proletariat) are characterised as being kept poor and uneducated, placated by the consumption of pornography and alcohol, and as being much more decoupled from the appartus of the surveillance state than the 'outer party' (read roughly the middle class, but beware the roughly), freer but less informed by the propaganda machine.  When I look around I find the closest analogue in contemporary america to be the tea-party/qanon-cultists/capitol-stormers.  To think that this group will somehow be the subject of a communist revolution strikes me as high farce indeed.  More generally the characterisation of the 'proles' is of an oppressed working class who unthinkly support the authoritarian regime, in the book and more generally around the world.  Only in america could the class dynamics of the book be described as pro-communism following the tranference of hate from eurasia to eastasia facism to communism accomplished under the rubric of totalitarianism.  Never mind that the book is basically a polemic against totalitarianism (yeah, that's anachronistic but whatever).

[delphonso]

People who voted Republican also voted for 15$ min wage (see Florida). Why would the Dems not look for a handful of votes from Rep senators? Or really try anything at all besides crumpling at the first touch of resistence.

[Dostoevsky]

The nature of the type of legislation (reconciliation) automatically turns it into a hyperpartisan exercise.