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[MorleyDev]

Honestly as an outside observer it seemed more to me like he just checked of the 'requisite god talk' all American speeches seem to have and put it into it's own little section. Maybe trying to balance out the sections that focus on the things that the traditional conservative interpretation of the christian god is opposed to (racial, gender, sex, trans equality, being guided by science).

The 'God gave me this challenge to overcome to solve these problems and moral quandries' version of faith rather than the 'God guides so I'm right in what I do' you see in fundementalists. Which as an atheist I find hearing less anxiety-inducing since it tends to allow people with that view to do things like decide gay marriage is totally okay (which Joe Biden has done).

And definitely a welcome change in tone from the horrible 'I talk about God now right guys? That's what I'm meant to do? God? Great guy, thinks I'm great too I hear' stuff from Donald Trump xD

As a bit of a tangent, as I understand it Catholic has become more of an identity than a strict dogma for some, there are 'Atheist Catholics' who still identify themselves as having had a catholic upbringing and so 'being catholic' but not actually following the tenants or faith anymore (which makes them bad catholics, but still catholics).

[MrRoboto75]

It seemed to me that Biden really wanted to stress unity, even with people that didn't vote for him or see him as an enemy.  That would include evangelicals.

[misko27]

Did anyone see their fireworks and lightshow afterwards though. What is going on with that black magic.

First they had stars and I was impressed. Then they were pulling out the American Flag, Biden Harris, President elect and I was losing it.

[MrRoboto75]

Did anyone see their fireworks and lightshow afterwards though. What is going on with that black magic.

First they had stars and I was impressed. Then they were pulling out the American Flag, Biden Harris, President elect and I was losing it.

From what I understand its just a swarm of drones with lights on them.

[MorleyDev]

From what I understand its just a swarm of drones with lights on them.

Thats...honestly way cooler sounding to me than stuffing a bunch of gunpowder in tubes and making it go boom xD

We've been able to do fireworks for a long time, but a synchronized drone show would have been science fiction just a decade ago after all.

[Dostoevsky]

To me it looked like the fireworks were quite close? I thought it was fireworks in front of a lightboard of something.

Anyhoo, for those curious about Biden's actual plan(s), he may have even more than the lampooned-Clinton's number. Some are short, some are long, and thanks to a lack of scrollbars on the webpage you won't know until you scroll through it all!

I had to go through a few of 'em for work, and I'd say the level of detail is above the average presidential candidate but still quite far from legislative text / detailed policy. Of course few will go into effect, but it does give an impression of the sorts of directions he might take. For some of these he even distinguishes between what would be an EO or the like and what would be need/want legislation.

In terms of left/right slant, the plans were pretty center-left several months ago... then more lefty groups noticed. After that they shifted a little more leftward, but still nothing revolutionary here.

[JoshuaFH]

If MaxSpin is to be believed, a portion of Americans just paid lower taxes and are comfortable with how the pandemic went. I can imagine a lot of people ignoring all news because it's too negative and voting Trump for status quo. There are all the single-issue voters and the religious base which now includes QAnon. I guess there's a large population who voted Trump to own the libs too. Fat cats who love riding the casino stock market Trump causes also have a lot of sway.

I've become less surprised at Trump's popularity lately.

On the first night the Discord went up, there was a Republican that had shown up, very certain of a Trump victory, and quite happy about it too. Apparently he was convinced that liberals and SJW's were abusing the country, and that the turnout of votes reflected that. I had no clue what he was talking about, do people really feel that way, enough to vote for Trump (like that would do anything)? The person in particular disappeared and hasn't shown up since, it'd have been nice to have them drop in to comment on where their prediction went wrong.

[misko27]

And also a few trolls who spammed images praising furher Trump. Sure wonder where they've been to since then.

[MrRoboto75]

To me it looked like the fireworks were quite close? I thought it was fireworks in front of a lightboard of something.

Anyhoo, for those curious about Biden's actual plan(s), he may have even more than the lampooned-Clinton's number. Some are short, some are long, and thanks to a lack of scrollbars on the webpage you won't know until you scroll through it all!

I had to go through a few of 'em for work, and I'd say the level of detail is above the average presidential candidate but still quite far from legislative text / detailed policy. Of course few will go into effect, but it does give an impression of the sorts of directions he might take. For some of these he even distinguishes between what would be an EO or the like and what would be need/want legislation.

In terms of left/right slant, the plans were pretty center-left several months ago... then more lefty groups noticed. After that they shifted a little more leftward, but still nothing revolutionary here.

I mean, few plans survive the battlefield so to speak.

[Frumple]

I had no clue what he was talking about, do people really feel that way, enough to vote for Trump (like that would do anything)? The person in particular disappeared and hasn't shown up since, it'd have been nice to have them drop in to comment on where their prediction went wrong.

Some people say they do, at least, sure. Some subset of that might even believe it.

In general the sentiment is oft repeated among right-wing media, as repeatedly and voraciously as it is baselessly, though. It's hammered as a truism pretty constantly, though good luck getting anything substantial to back it up. Folks spout that out with certainty from hearing it hundreds to thousands of times, it's just less a thing rooted in anything resembling reality and more a mantra or slogan or projection or... whatever.

[SalmonGod]

Apparently he was convinced that liberals and SJW's were abusing the country, and that the turnout of votes reflected that. I had no clue what he was talking about, do people really feel that way

I've seen claims that progressives/SJWs/whatever buzzword you want to use for anyone left of Reagan are just about every type of monster you can imagine.  I just came here from scrolling Facebook for 10 seconds, and saw a comment claiming progressives fantasize about genocide.  Looked at the guy's wall for a couple minutes, and found gems such as claiming there's a widespread practice among progressives of torturing cats by shoving potatos up their butts.  Along with the now-common practice of hammering the progressive = socialist and nazis were socialist, therefor progressives are nazis angle.  I've been social on the internet daily since 1996.  I'd encounter this kind of crazy online back in the 90's, but it was rare.  It started taking off in the mid-2000's.  Now I can't glance at the internet without seeing it clogging up every interaction in every public space.  The USA's been descending into madness for a long time.  I'm as happy as anyone to see Trump losing office.  It's a good feel.  And all the melting down from him and his more zealous supporters are good entertainment.  But I don't expect it to stop or even slow the descent into madness.  And much of the rest of the world is getting there, too.

[Folly]

There have always been zealots in the world, ready and eager to die for a cause. They are not created by the cause; rather, they are created, and then go looking for a cause. And if no legitimate cause is offered, they will latch onto whatever irrational cause they can find.

Understanding is your greatest asset when dealing with zealots. You can not reason with them. You can not change their way of thinking. They will never compromise. The best you can do is to stay out of their way, and prepare yourself for the day when they inevitably take up arms.

[dragdeler]

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[martinuzz]

I wonder if Melania has filed for divorce yet

[Quarque]

I'm as happy as anyone to see Trump losing office.  It's a good feel.  And all the melting down from him and his more zealous supporters are good entertainment.  But I don't expect it to stop or even slow the descent into madness.  And much of the rest of the world is getting there, too.

His zealous supporters (like that guy with the beer t-shirt yelling about freedom) aren't entertaining me at all. They just make me sad. They're angry, and right to be angry. They too, feel that something is massively wrong, when we have had an economic collapse in 2008 and it ended up with the people responsible for it only getting richer, while the masses get poorer.

The problem is that the Trumpists misdirect their anger - they know that "elites" are stealing from them, but often go on to blame liberalism and science itself. It is misguided, but I can see where the gut feeling is coming from. They feel and see too that the country is sick, and it is a tragedy to see them run after a conman in desperation, like a patient who spends his fortune on a quack.