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« Reply #36375 on: April 21, 2020, 11:00:13 am »

Sounds like an extremely poorly conceived plan to put yourself into debt for something like that. We sure he wasn't just planning on reselling the domains to the astroturfers for a significant markup on the price? That's what I would have done, personally.

Yeah, even I can think of ways around what he did. I think trying to sell at a markup would run him afoul of domain squatting laws (which, to be fair, is what he is trying to do).

Those typically are only enforceable if a trademark is involved. Not sure if there is one here, but given the nature of the way they're doing things, I'd highly doubt it. If there is, that seems like a pretty easy public records lookup. (Not finding anything myself with about 30 seconds of effort.)
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« Reply #36376 on: April 21, 2020, 11:31:19 am »

Glad it was not legit astroturfing.

That's an oxymoron, sorry. The term astroturfing specifically applies to the fake situation. It contrasts with the term "grass roots" since Astro-Turf is a brand of fake grass. So if it's legit, it's not astroturf.

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« Reply #36377 on: April 21, 2020, 11:58:05 am »

Glad it was not legit astroturfing.

That's an oxymoron, sorry. The term astroturfing specifically applies to the fake situation. It contrasts with the term "grass roots" since Astro-Turf is a brand of fake grass. So if it's legit, it's not astroturf.

Once legitimacy has been legitimately determined, it can no longer be legitimately labelled illegitimate, lest the legitimacy of the original legitimacy claim be called into question, and then the legitimacy of that claim must be determined.
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« Reply #36378 on: April 21, 2020, 11:58:29 am »

Glad it was not legit astroturfing.

That's an oxymoron, sorry. The term astroturfing specifically applies to the fake situation. It contrasts with the term "grass roots" since Astro-Turf is a brand of fake grass. So if it's legit, it's not astroturf.

*narrows eyes*

What if I had some sleazy off-brand Astro-Turf substitute? Couldn't the original brand then be referred to as "legitimate Astro-Turf"?
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« Reply #36379 on: April 21, 2020, 12:11:54 pm »

"This ain't astroturf! You just painted the dirt green!"
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« Reply #36380 on: April 21, 2020, 12:35:39 pm »

As a person who works in the advocacy realm, I can tell you I have indeed heard of cases of "non legit astroturfing." It's rather amusing, really.

In the situations I can think of, it's a scammer that tries to sell astroturfing to interest groups, but just pockets the money (or otherwise wastes it) instead of doing it.

An one might imagine, the Trump realm has led to (or perhaps just helped stimulate more of) further types of scams, fleecing, bilking, and otherwise skeezy activities in certain political populaces.
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« Reply #36381 on: April 21, 2020, 01:17:52 pm »

Saw an anti-Trump ad this morning from America’s Bridge PAC (or whatever it’s called PACs are stupid) that wasn’t really anti-Trump so much as anti-China.

It was quite stupid.
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« Reply #36382 on: April 21, 2020, 01:42:59 pm »

Yes, apparently the DNC is going with "let's bring back Yellow Peril and say Trump is in league with the inscrutable Orient" for their campaign strategy. Sure am glad they picked the electable candidate, eh boys?

For the future, I'm thinking we run ads implying Melania Trump is a filthy prostitute, and questioning the place of women's suffrage in a prosperous America.
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« Reply #36383 on: April 21, 2020, 02:19:14 pm »

It's likely Monday's immigration E.O. is a red herring from the newest story on the Senate Intel report.
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« Reply #36384 on: April 21, 2020, 04:41:47 pm »

Saw an anti-Trump ad this morning from America’s Bridge PAC (or whatever it’s called PACs are stupid) that wasn’t really anti-Trump so much as anti-China.

It was quite stupid.

It depends. What I got was: Are you a racist? Then maybe consider the DNC, they're racist as fuck.
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« Reply #36385 on: April 21, 2020, 06:25:25 pm »

Clearly the winning strategy is to make fun of Trump's hair for 6 months.

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« Reply #36386 on: April 21, 2020, 06:49:14 pm »

"This ain't astroturf! You just painted the dirt green!"
'Did not, it's clearly cyan... wait!'
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« Reply #36387 on: April 21, 2020, 06:59:03 pm »

"This ain't astroturf! You just painted the dirt green!"
'Did not, it's clearly cyan... wait!'
its Cyanobacteria time
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« Reply #36388 on: April 22, 2020, 10:52:47 am »

Didn't see the ad, but it's possible to be anti-Chinese state and not anti-Chinese race or people.

It's the same false equivalence that gets people to throw around the word "anti-semitism" when someone calls out Israel on their wrongdoings.
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« Reply #36389 on: April 22, 2020, 03:44:14 pm »

Didn't see the ad, but it's possible to be anti-Chinese state and not anti-Chinese race or people.

It's the same false equivalence that gets people to throw around the word "anti-semitism" when someone calls out Israel on their wrongdoings.

It's an advertisement for a guy who supports segregation in the year 2020, because he doesn't want a "racial jungle". We could give him the benefit of the doubt, but only if we ignore the past, and also the present.
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