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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #36135 on: April 07, 2020, 09:33:24 pm »

Action 1: Use necromancy to bring back past presidents of the USA, with their personalities in tact by placing their spirits in their respective bodies

This won't actually work, since as far as I know term limits still apply even if the President is a lich.

Fair point, what about only ressurecting those who have only had 1 term?
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« Reply #36136 on: April 07, 2020, 09:38:36 pm »

"The only way to beat a bad guy with a fascism, is a good guy with a fascism."

Man,  that's just bad faith.
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« Reply #36137 on: April 07, 2020, 09:52:33 pm »

"The only way to beat a bad guy with a fascism, is a good guy with a fascism."

Man,  that's just bad faith.

The only way to beat a bad faith with a... hmm... a fascism... actually this isn't working.
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« Reply #36138 on: April 07, 2020, 09:55:47 pm »

Action 1: Use necromancy to bring back past presidents of the USA, with their personalities in tact by placing their spirits in their respective bodies

This won't actually work, since as far as I know term limits still apply even if the President is a lich.


A good lawyer would get around that, you can make a good case that this only applies to terms after the amendment was ratified. So you can bring back Zombie Lincoln and have him stand for election, at least once. It's all in the wording.

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« Reply #36139 on: April 07, 2020, 10:29:40 pm »

Bring back FDR for the New Deal but make him Japanese for the irony
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« Reply #36140 on: April 07, 2020, 10:39:50 pm »

Trump's just declared war on the World Health Organization.

https://politics.slashdot.org/story/20/04/07/239255/trump-threatens-to-withhold-funding-for-world-health-organization

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What better way to celebrate World Health Day than by threatening to withhold funding for the World Health Organization. That's exactly what President Trump said he was considering today at Tuesday's coronavirus press briefing. The New York Times reports:

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"We're going to put a hold on money spent to the W.H.O.; we're going to put a very powerful hold on it and we're going to see," Mr. Trump said, accusing the organization of having not been aggressive enough in confronting the dangers from the virus. "They called it wrong. They call it wrong. They really they missed the call." Mr. Trump appeared to be particularly angry at the W.H.O. for issuing a statement saying it did not support his decision on Jan. 31 to restrict some travel from China because of the virus. At the time, the group issued a statement saying that "restricting the movement of people and goods during public health emergencies is ineffective in most situations and may divert resources from other interventions."

"Don't close your borders to China, don't do this," Mr. Trump said, paraphrasing the group and accusing the organization of "not seeing" the outbreak when it started in Wuhan, China. "They didn't see it, how do you not see it? They didn't see it. They didn't report it. If they did see it, they must have seen it, but they didn't report." In fact, the W.H.O. repeatedly issued statements about the emergence of the virus in China and its movement around the world.

The budget for the W.H.O. is about $5 billion and comes from member countries around the world. "In 2017, the last year for which figures were available, the United States was required to spend $111 million based on the organization's rules, but sent an additional $401 million in voluntary contributions," reports The New York Times.

Trump said his government will investigate the organization and that "we will look at ending funding." It's unclear if he's planning to eliminate all funding, or only some.

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« Reply #36141 on: April 07, 2020, 11:08:20 pm »

Trump's just declared war on the World Health Organization.

https://politics.slashdot.org/story/20/04/07/239255/trump-threatens-to-withhold-funding-for-world-health-organization

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What better way to celebrate World Health Day than by threatening to withhold funding for the World Health Organization. That's exactly what President Trump said he was considering today at Tuesday's coronavirus press briefing. The New York Times reports:

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"We're going to put a hold on money spent to the W.H.O.; we're going to put a very powerful hold on it and we're going to see," Mr. Trump said, accusing the organization of having not been aggressive enough in confronting the dangers from the virus. "They called it wrong. They call it wrong. They really they missed the call." Mr. Trump appeared to be particularly angry at the W.H.O. for issuing a statement saying it did not support his decision on Jan. 31 to restrict some travel from China because of the virus. At the time, the group issued a statement saying that "restricting the movement of people and goods during public health emergencies is ineffective in most situations and may divert resources from other interventions."

"Don't close your borders to China, don't do this," Mr. Trump said, paraphrasing the group and accusing the organization of "not seeing" the outbreak when it started in Wuhan, China. "They didn't see it, how do you not see it? They didn't see it. They didn't report it. If they did see it, they must have seen it, but they didn't report." In fact, the W.H.O. repeatedly issued statements about the emergence of the virus in China and its movement around the world.

The budget for the W.H.O. is about $5 billion and comes from member countries around the world. "In 2017, the last year for which figures were available, the United States was required to spend $111 million based on the organization's rules, but sent an additional $401 million in voluntary contributions," reports The New York Times.

Trump said his government will investigate the organization and that "we will look at ending funding." It's unclear if he's planning to eliminate all funding, or only some.
Dies he hate worldwide health? WHY???/
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« Reply #36142 on: April 07, 2020, 11:43:08 pm »

"The only way to beat a bad guy with a fascism, is a good guy with a fascism."

Man,  that's just bad faith.

The only way to beat a bad faith with a... hmm... a fascism... actually this isn't working.

It's the basic argument of "Because I'm using the same word to refer to these two people, they MUST be identical to each other."  It's a bad faith argument because it's depending entirely on what one person says, rather than on anything measurable.
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« Reply #36143 on: April 07, 2020, 11:46:50 pm »

Dies he hate worldwide health? WHY???/
Because it's a scapegoat.  In this case the WHO does have a lot of issues with what happened and what was done by it, therefore there's a hundred issues that can be brought up to throw smoke instead of having to talk about his own mistakes.  Remember, narcissists always need to blame someone else.
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« Reply #36144 on: April 08, 2020, 12:30:18 am »

WHO rejected Trump's vision of reality.
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« Reply #36145 on: April 08, 2020, 12:36:03 am »

I figured it was because WHO let the dogs out.
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« Reply #36146 on: April 08, 2020, 12:41:25 am »

The world health organization kept reminding the president that there is this thing called "reality" that exists separate from what your wishes and whims are, and is cold and uncaring about how much money he has.


He does not like that.
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« Reply #36147 on: April 08, 2020, 01:02:18 am »

To be frank, the WHO did make quite a lot of mistakes too.

Like disrecommending making household masks. And saying there's a low risk of asymptomatic spread.

Dies he hate worldwide health? WHY???/

Remember, just because something calls itself the World Health Organization does not mean its sole motive is world health. We've seen how much it likes licking China's boots too.
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« Reply #36148 on: April 08, 2020, 02:00:04 am »

Remember, just because something calls itself the World Health Organization does not mean its sole motive is world health. We've seen how much it likes licking China's boots too.

This is also the reason why there were specific American officials dealing with China in their place, to ensure that the American administration got the facts.  Who were, of course, fired by Trump.

There are issues with the WHO, but coming from him those explanations are just a smokescreen.  The main reason we don't know the whole truth is because of the dismantling of the American intelligence community, not because the WHO is afraid to step on toes.. they never had the power to enforce those kind of demands on rich countries.
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« Reply #36149 on: April 08, 2020, 02:02:54 am »

There's absolutely no reason to continue to support an organisation that doesn't even pretend to not be another country's lapdog. If China gets to have the kind of influence over the WHO that they have then they should at least be the ones who pays for it.
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