I *know* he was really flawed, and endorsed some evil shit (indigenous land rights, etc)
Wait, what's this about? Edit: if you're talking about UNDRIP or the like I suppose I'll have to respectfully disagree on the descriptor you used.
Rereading the Standing Rock timeline, I wish he'd done more, but he and his administration weren't ignoring as much as I thought. I was unaware of EMAC providing a tenuous justification for importing cops the way it happened and I really hate that it was, but there was not, in fact, a way for Obama to point at it and say "wait, that's illegal" as I assumed.
@Iduno Refusing to vote for democrats because Obama made some but not all things better is dumb. I *know* he was really flawed, and endorsed some evil shit (indigenous land rights, etc) but you can primary a Democrat and push things around. Republicans straight-up arent responsive to public opinion at this point and they need to get crushed out of office for it. Abandoning the democratic party pushes it right a lot more than voting for things you actually want because you expect not to get them.
Nah, you're right. I should vote for rapists, racists, and people who want to kill me and anyone like me. If I don't reward them for being terrible, how will they get better?
It's been shown that voting for the lesser of two evils only determines the baseline amount of evil they'll aim for next time, which is why we keep getting worse candidates. They even tried to run a person who could best be described as "what if we found someone who was like Donald Trump, except worse in literally every way." Democrats are also straight-up aren't responsive to public opinion at this point, and they need to be crushed out of office for it.
This is flagrantly untrue and you know it. Republicans openly embrace voter suppression tactics and hide from their constituents, flee their own state to prevent a quorum from being reached and try to legislate people like you and me out of existance. The democratic party is not unanimously on our side, but we *have* a side in the democratic party, and it isn't small or disappearing.
Bloomberg is a piece of shit, but he wasn't getting anyone's votes. Letting him into the primary pushed him out of the race and claimed his money for the general. Democratic voters didn't vote for him. He is not the face of the party. I don't like Biden either, but he will be good enough to build on. He's rejected universal healthcare, but still is willing to expand access. That is a good thing. He can appoint supreme court justices that wont literally allow us to be murdered in the streets.
Also, and this goes for everybody, don't stop voting in the primary just because Biden is leading. A vote for Bernie or whoever you like is a proclamation of what policy you're willing to give your vote to get and it'll influence platform shifts ahead of the general and for the next election cycle. I know the people are shit, often. Vote for policy, and move the needle.
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