Sanders apparently hit the centrist candidates from the top rope, so I'm satisfied.
I'unno, from what I've been picking up from chatter sanders didn't do too well overall. Better than most of the second stringers, but that's not saying much.
On the other hand, warren apparently decapitated someone on live TV or... something.
Its not looking good sadly for the more moderate democrats. Seems the far left are getting more support, which to me is as bad as the far right.
Something like 70% of the extremist murders in the US are far right -- over 80% if you include muslim extremist stuff among them. Less than a tenth are left. Meanwhile we see the results of rightwing policy regularly. Poisoned water, crumbling infrastructure, even more wealth inequality, rampant abuses, flagrant corruption, and so on. Perhaps unfortunately (given what it entails about some "moderates" in the US), what amounts to the far left in the US isn't, actually, nearly as bad as the far right. By any metric save maybe "leave us alone so we can fuck over minorities and poor people".
... so far as genuinely far left goes, as opposed to lukewarm "sanders counts" american nonsense, well, there wasn't really any of those on stage. Good few years out from that really being on the table at all, probably...
democrat cities do tend to be a lot better. Though many democrat cities end up having the opposite end of the issue, the high quality living for most people is too much for many to afford so there ends up being a massive homeless population. LA and san francisco as two examples, are both amazing cities but are incredibly high in the amount that are homeless. I'd be homeless if didn't still live with my parents, since my disability wouldn't even cover a month of rent let alone all the utilities/bills+food+other expenses. Where as if I lived in a dirty republican state, I could afford a HOUSE (which can't do at all in california) on my own, pay the entire bills/rent and still have enough money left over for other stuff. But point is that democratic cities often end up having their own issues but I do agree do tend to be vastly better in quality living. Except like LA like I said, has a massive homeless problem going on right now, at least last I heard a month or two back. And from what I got out of LA time, the people who can do something about it are ignoring it and not trying to solve the issue.
Though I haven't seen anywhere socialism has succeeded anywhere. Which is actually what I mean by the far left. I know it came out of a form of communism or communism was based on it, a lot of the stuff socialism is direct out of the communism playbook or maybe its vice versa, a lot of similarities between the two. Socialism is pretty much communist-lite though in any case. Just painted differently. But socialism itself in whatever form it takes hasn't really succeeded anywhere. UK has their form of socialism but is a huge police state and they treat words as a bigger crime than being a pedo or murderer. But UK has always been rather controlling of their pop, being once a monarchy and all, so that isn't much to say. Venezuala is a socialist dictatorship and failed. Cuba has some form of socialism, russia embraced some form of it or came up with it, its one of the two (again I know its one or other) and that failed. Their entire government collapsed under it and it took them a long time to get rid of it, but it has other issues now. Pretty much socialism and communist pops up and the country/government collapses. And then people just try to do it again in another place not and say it'll be different this time lol.
I know this is what trump ends up wanting in 2020 and he even said as much, and if it ends up that, its likely gonna be a very shitty 4 more racist dirtbag years.
But a lot of the moderate democrats were obviously opposed to that in the 1st debate, but they don't stand a chance at nomination. Just not enough support. Biden doesn't go that route either, more in line with hillary and obama. Same with kamala harris. Biden being the far more likely of the two (him and Kamala) to win. Especially since kamala has flip flopped quite heavily, but we'll see. I think Biden would easily beat trump, and like I added to my post above, he has a lot of support from a lot of communities.
(edit: Though I should clarify. Some socialist aspects aren't so bad like republicans like to say. Some nations in europe do pretty well, though like sweden is more a hybrid of capitalism and socialism more than an actual full socialist nation like cuba or Venezuela. So aspects of socialism can be great, when combined with things like capitalism in a way that is good for everyone and not just the super rich. But to me that is more moderate democrat policies, like obama and hillary's policies she wanted to do. So a place like sweden is an example where aspects of socialism can still be good, but not the overreaching aspects of some of it. Pretty much obama/hillary/biden policies to sum it up).
Author
Topic: AmeriPol thread (Read 4207154 times)