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Re: AmeriPol: Russia investigation sheneinighans
« Reply #17580 on: February 27, 2018, 09:56:20 pm »

Plenty aren't just sick to death of normalcy.  Some such as myself believe it will literally kill us.  Break the Chains (of Consumerism) must happen for the sake of the environment #1.
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Re: AmeriPol: Russia investigation sheneinighans
« Reply #17581 on: February 27, 2018, 10:08:04 pm »

Ok, so then maybe borrow a page from Samuel Tilden's campaign: "Bernie or Blood!"
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Re: AmeriPol: Russia investigation sheneinighans
« Reply #17582 on: February 27, 2018, 10:20:06 pm »

"Sudo apt-get vote {Democrat}"
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« Reply #17583 on: February 27, 2018, 10:33:06 pm »

Shit, just re-use Harding's slogan: "Return to Normalcy".



I wonder what was going on at that time which made that work as a slogan?

That might not be a great idea. Everybody is sick to death of normalcy, even accounting for Trumpreich. Invoking the spooky ghost of Bland Neoliberal Corporate Stasis is probably a good way to lose.

Personally, I'm hoping for "Break The Chains".
Plenty aren't just sick to death of normalcy.  Some such as myself believe it will literally kill us.  Break the Chains (of Consumerism) must happen for the sake of the environment #1.

Maybe something like Make America Respected Again (too similar to MAGA?), has the same populist undertones while being a rebuke to his foriegn policy?

Hard to know what would work better than MAGA since theres this whole populist bubbling up and opposing forces that want to change things, in literally opposite directions, the past vs the future. The midterms will help the Democrats sort out what works and what doesn't, at least in a localized fashion as not every tactic will translate nationwide. Just like Republicans have tried and failed to win the various special elections (and the usual scheduled stuff in 2017) by trying to metaphysically be Trump.
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« Reply #17584 on: February 28, 2018, 12:01:12 am »

I'd go with an optimistic slogan, like "We can do better", or "It's not too late", or "From every nightmare a mortal must wake or perish", or "Progress, together"
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« Reply #17585 on: February 28, 2018, 12:13:27 am »

I'd go with an optimistic slogan, like "We can do better", or "It's not too late", or "From every nightmare a mortal must wake or perish", or "Progress, together"

Didn't Hillary use the first one?
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« Reply #17586 on: February 28, 2018, 01:12:33 am »

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/27/589351779/report-updates-landmark-1968-racism-study-finds-more-poverty-more-segregation

50 years later and he haven't fixed shit. America is racist to the core. We just don't like to admit it.
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Re: AmeriPol: Russia investigation sheneinighans
« Reply #17587 on: February 28, 2018, 01:27:42 am »

"Well, that sucked." ~2020 Democrat campaign as a statement on the previous 4 years.

"Win harder."

"Fake news, real progress."


As for the gun debate, I will steal from someone much better informed on constitutional law than I: http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1836&context=fss_papers

The 1st through 10th can definitely be read as checks and counters to tyranny, but the language used suggests that they were also describing methods by which the people can be involved in governing without actually being politicians.

A militia involves training and mustering together with your neighbors and so forth, not just so you can fight off a hypothetical seizure of the military by tyrants, but so you can participate in service and defense of your home(s) while  strengthening your bond with said neighbors.

A right to trial by jury and the various protections apply to prevent you from being unjustly imprisoned, but they also describe a role by which citizens can take part in judicial proceedings.

The only one which regularly gets recognized for both the positive rights and the negative protections included is the 1st: it says you can't be attacked for speaking out against the government, and it says you can not be prevented from assembling to petition the government directly or indirectly.

The 2nd, read in this context, refers originally to a military term: bearing arms. It has been interpreted recently as a broad right to keep and own arms, but it only really takes that character after including the reconstruction amendment as that is the one which allowed for citizens who may not be able to rely on police intervention against crime--freed slaves, in other words--to keep weapons at home for defense against intrusion and violence directed at them or their family.

The "I need it for hunting" excuse is nonsense, while the "I need it for home defense" argument has slightly more merit, except for the vast number of weapons better suited for the task of scaring off/incapacitating an intruder who won't always be nice and enter during the day after announcing their intentions so you can roll out of bed like an action hero, your fully tactical-kitted semi-auto--and someone awkward to wield--rifle having been kept under your pillow because fuck that gun cabinet bullshit, this is the moment you spent a couple of hours three years ago training intensely for!


Also I love these kids being all sassy and snippy with fucking congress-critters and the like.

'So what exactly are you going to do here, because I don't want any other kids to know what it feels like seeing their friends getting shot and dying in front of them, and apparently you assholes are in charge, what's up?'

"Well, uh, see, this is the sort of question that really should have been vetted beforehand because I don't really have a better answer than trying to sidestep it before offering worthless platitudes."

'So... nothing then? What use are you exactly?'

*crickets*
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Re: AmeriPol: Russia investigation sheneinighans
« Reply #17588 on: February 28, 2018, 01:38:10 am »

I recommend "A square deal all around."
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« Reply #17589 on: February 28, 2018, 05:10:49 am »

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« Reply #17590 on: February 28, 2018, 06:40:46 am »

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« Reply #17591 on: February 28, 2018, 06:44:50 am »

"Let's make things right (make it the way it's meant to be)"
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Re: AmeriPol: Russia investigation sheneinighans
« Reply #17592 on: February 28, 2018, 07:24:33 am »

I’d go with basically anything by Nietzsche. “Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.” “We have gazed long into an abyss, and now the abyss is gazing back.” You know, really tap into that nationwide nihilism that we’ll all be feeling by the time the polls open.
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Re: AmeriPol: Russia investigation sheneinighans
« Reply #17593 on: February 28, 2018, 07:50:21 am »

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« Reply #17594 on: February 28, 2018, 08:21:11 am »

"Horrify your grandma! Become a socialist today!"  :P
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