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Starver

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So, Trump tweeted:
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"46% of Americans think the Media is inventing stories about Trump & his Administration." @FoxNews   It is actually much worse than this!

But I initially read that as:
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"46% of Americans think the Media is inventing stories about Trump & his Administration." @FoxNews is actually much worse than this!

Which was fun.
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Frumple

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Hey, he's not wrong. It is worse. They're not inventing as many stories as they usually do about ruddy anything.

Or at least that reading isn't. There's at least three other things that worse could be aiming at. Belief numbers lower or higher, invented stories higher.

... probably some other ones, too, but the wake up haze has dissipated enough to remind me it's one in the goddamn morning, sleep lasted less than an hour, and I really don't have to deal with some shitfuck on twitter that's less capable of clear writing than a drunken philosophy freshman.

Also I say that with authority. I tend to avoid folks drinking but I've still been around drunken philosophy freshmen before. Seen some folks that couldn't walk straight and wouldn't know concise if it hit them with a brick put together a less ambiguous statement than that. Senile ratfink bastard.
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Cruxador

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I wonder if Left Wing Watch would have just as much crazy... I mean, we hear about their crazies all the time, but where are OUR crazies?
It's pretty much the same situation on each side. Just as the left looks at right wing crazies as being a big deal, the left wing crazies are the ones that the right thinks are representative. So you've got evangelical atheists and actual outright communists, you've got safe space SJWs protesting to prevent people they don't like from speaking, you've got a college professor breaking a kid's skull with a bike lock and antifa rioters stabbing anyone that looks like a trump supporter to them. And, yeah, what Flying Dice said. The demonizations of feminism, for example, may be generally wrong but there are people who are happy to fit whatever negative stereotype the right can come up with for them, just as there are people shouting "die cis scum" and all that jazz.

How the fuck are there so many people who take Alex Jones seriously? I stumbled upon his Youtube channel the other day and I had to check to make sure it wasn't satirical.
A lot of what he says seems credible to me. Not as in "I think that could be true" credible but as in "I could see people legitimately believing that". His conspiracy/spirituality stuff in particular seems like a poorly articulated but workable start to a modern cult.
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There also seems to be an uptick in young people being exposed to satirical or strawmanned versions of the arguments on both sides and taking them seriously due to lack of exposure to those views, which has the negative consequence of pushing the lunatic fringe on both sides further and further into insanity.
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Quote from: Thomas Paine
To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture.
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No Gods, No Masters.

Paxiecrunchle

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I...I do not know what to say for once, other than I think it is a shame that concentrated insanity is not a renewable energy resource.

Frumple

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I wonder if Left Wing Watch would have just as much crazy... I mean, we hear about their crazies all the time, but where are OUR crazies?
It's pretty much the same situation on each side.
Nah. Equivocation bullshit is in fact bullshit. The primary reason you don't see as much on left wing crazies is just due to relative proportion and effect. Left wing has 'em, right wing's ran by 'em, as it goes. Largest general source of domestic terrorism is conservative extremists, a great deal of radical right wing proposition are pushed or supported whole cloth, there's not any particular countrywide left wing push for the disenfranchisement of millions of americans, you don't have left wing infiltration of law enforcement as a notable country wide domestic security issue, the list just goes on for a while.

Not particularly difficult to pick up why there doesn't seem to be just as much left wing crazy as right in the US, basically. It's because there just kinda' actually ain't, and what's there isn't causing as much trouble.
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SalmonGod

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Not particularly difficult to pick up why there doesn't seem to be just as much left wing crazy as right in the US, basically. It's because there just kinda' actually ain't, and what's there isn't causing as much trouble.

But... But... Bike lock!  And a couple professors have lost their jobs!  And smashed windows!
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b O t H s I d E s
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To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture.
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No Gods, No Masters.

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    • I APPLAUD YOU SIRRAH

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i am a centrist. having strong opinions r dumb. middle way not extremism OK

sluissa

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Look to your right, look to your left. If you don't see anyone to one side of you, maybe YOU are the crazy extremist.
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Starver

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*Looks around room, devoid of other people...*

I'M A CRAZY CENTRIST!
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NullForceOmega

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Centrists were always crazy.  They believed that people could actually cooperate.
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