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Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« Reply #11355 on: August 21, 2017, 10:59:49 pm »

I think he's on the nutty libertarian side anyway what with his views on taxes. Or maybe anarchist.
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« Reply #11356 on: August 21, 2017, 11:00:22 pm »

No, it was at the new guy, the one who's trolling attempt amounts to "lol they're leftists, let's just name a bunch of things Leftists Think Are Good and that, instead, They Are Bad, that'll get them riled up"

fucking pick a new shtick, dude, it's kind of getting old now.

Because my point was that Trump is as okay with 99% of issues that are left-wing as Obama, Clinton, Sanders or anyone else. He doesn't question them won't repeal them. That's it.
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« Reply #11357 on: August 21, 2017, 11:00:50 pm »

I think he's on the nutty libertarian side anyway what with his views on taxes. Or maybe anarchist.

I am libertarian, not really anarchist.
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« Reply #11358 on: August 21, 2017, 11:04:25 pm »

No, it was at the new guy, the one who's trolling attempt amounts to "lol they're leftists, let's just name a bunch of things Leftists Think Are Good and that, instead, They Are Bad, that'll get them riled up"

fucking pick a new shtick, dude, it's kind of getting old now.

If US and Europe maintained the same protectionist policy as in the 1930s there would never be such a huge economic growth, neither would it have happened if we had nationalized everything like the UK or France. There is a reason why the US was so succesful back then and Europe was not. It's ridiculous to believe that it is all because of the war. Socialist governments of European countries (apart from the German one) did everything they could to make things worse with their statist agenda and American companies were allowed to prosper. That's the point.

If that bothers you enough to hide someone's posts, then announce to everyone that you've done so, then frankly you should probably just find an echo chamber with a more reliable seal. Is it really so unbelievable to you that someone would hold a mainstream political stance?
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Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« Reply #11359 on: August 21, 2017, 11:05:47 pm »

I don't see how you would think I give a shit about *what* he said, he doesn't care about the substance any more than I do. I dislike obviously disingenuous people and I will not enable them by responding to them.
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Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« Reply #11360 on: August 21, 2017, 11:08:30 pm »

Wasn't like that was the only thing said, regardless. Plus there's bits just in that quote so farcically wrong I could understand someone just not wanting to have to keep seeing it.
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Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« Reply #11361 on: August 21, 2017, 11:09:03 pm »

I don't see how you would think I give a shit about *what* he said, he doesn't care about the substance any more than I do. I dislike obviously disingenuous people and I will not enable them by responding to them.

Except you're not really right. I read the entire topic and he is not just trolling and writing the same thing all over again. Baffler shows you an example of a post that proves you wrong.

Johnny is a bit misguided, but he raises some good points, like in the post quoted by Baffler.
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« Reply #11362 on: August 21, 2017, 11:10:46 pm »

You all can have fun being his play thing, I'm out. Call me when he gets banned.
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« Reply #11363 on: August 21, 2017, 11:12:48 pm »

If he IS trolling and trying to rile people up, he's doing a pretty poor job of riling people up. Economics discussions hardly get very heated up around here, compared to a whole bunch of other things, like say... abortion.
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« Reply #11364 on: August 21, 2017, 11:16:12 pm »

I don't see how you would think I give a shit about *what* he said, he doesn't care about the substance any more than I do. I dislike obviously disingenuous people and I will not enable them by responding to them.

Except you're not really right. I read the entire topic and he is not just trolling and writing the same thing all over again. Baffler shows you an example of a post that proves you wrong.

Johnny is a bit misguided, but he raises some good points, like in the post quoted by Baffler.

Well none of the things he says actually has any proof in them, to be fair. He's not trolling, just being very opinionated. Not something I personally like because there's no point in having a discussion with someone like that, so I see where Descan's coming from, though I wouldn't go so far as to block 'im for it.
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Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« Reply #11365 on: August 21, 2017, 11:19:52 pm »

I agree, he presents ideas very poorly as he does nothing to prove them, but calling him a troll and publicly announce blocking him sounds a bit excessive.
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Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« Reply #11366 on: August 21, 2017, 11:23:18 pm »

Maybe yes, maybe no? The critter's doing bog standard scattershot lolbertarian nonsense; not proving anything is half the point, as whenever something is questioned, corrected, or pointed out as bugnuttery, you immediately throw out a half dozen other things, most of them at-best loosely connected.

If it's not trolling, it's someone that's been bamboozled by folks that were, basically. Also obvious enough I can see why desc would react like that, though it's maybe on the excessive side. Mess actually made my headache worse just looking at it, heh.
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Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« Reply #11367 on: August 21, 2017, 11:25:43 pm »

point of fact: I only blocked him when he did the dumb-as-bricks "not everyones a leftist!" bullshit. That sealed the deal, instead of him responding to what I actually said, he followed a script when met with resistance. <--- Since I know someone's gonna latch onto the first sentence, THIS is the important part, and going "but... not everyone IS a leftist" is completely missing the point.
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Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« Reply #11368 on: August 21, 2017, 11:33:21 pm »

Still, tis rude to announce such a thing. I would know, I do it myself sometimes, and I rightfully get called out for it.

You gotta do what you gotta do, but keeping the general tone of the thread healthy - if not friendly, then at least civil - is something we all have to work for.
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Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« Reply #11369 on: August 21, 2017, 11:35:16 pm »

I don't consider obviously disingenuous posters and trolling attempts healthy, friendly, or civil.
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