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[RedKing]

I look at people who rail about MSM as media hipsters.
"Oh, I get the truth from this website you've probably never heard of. Yeah, I used to like Breitbart, before they got popular and sold out."

[Neonivek]

Well we could always bring up the MRA if you really want to stay on this topic.

Since they are the best example of BEING this sort of group that has a worse reputation than they deserve... But at the same time the largest source OF this bad reputation is another group with a far BETTER reputation than they deserve.

Both which are leftist groups

I sincerely doubt somebody who is not a nazi becomes a nazi out of sympathy for their true victim narrative.

If I remember correctly... TYPICALLY the cause is disenfranchisement.

The funny thing is how much people don't understand that. There was a small news piece about Anti-ISIS videos the US was making to convince youth not to join ISIS...

But someone who used to make ISIS videos looked at it and said "You guys are morons... This is incredibly preachy and no one is going to listen to this"

Since the ISIS videos are about giving people a place where they belong. While the Anti-ISIS video is the typical banging of the RACISM! SEXISM! drum.

Which isn't to say that Drum is incorrect... But people bang the Racism sexism drum so much it has become background noise. People have called the color of traffic lights to be racist.

[Sheb]

The MRA are leftists? Are you even trying to make sense, or just putting together insinuations?

[Neonivek]

The MRA are leftists? Are you even trying to make sense, or just putting together insinuations?

Why don't they qualify as leftist?

They seem to use leftist ideology and are rather anti-traditional.

[smjjames]

The MRA are leftists? Are you even trying to make sense, or just putting together insinuations?

Why don't they qualify as leftist?

They seem to use leftist ideology and are rather anti-traditional.

There are both liberal feminists and conservative feminists. Wasn't one of the biggest feminists of the 60's and 70's actually pretty conservative? Feminism really isn't constrained by political leaning, conservative feminists just have a different take on it than liberal feminists. MRAs are a reaction to that, and thus aren't constrained by political ideology.

[Neonivek]

True I guess giving them a political leaning isn't EXACTLY accurate. Then again people tend to do that anyway.

Since it isn't like they have TOO much of a say on military spending except that military service should be open for all genders AND that we should consider the ramification of how we treat soldiers as disposable.

MRAs are a reaction to that

Oddly enough after some research. They aren't so much a reactionary group they are a offshoot or splinter of feminism.

Menanism (a joke group) is a reactionary group.

[Frumple]

... your research is crap, man. Memory, too, since I'm pretty sure you've been involved with probably a dozen conversations that involved the topic. People tend to put MRA folks in the right-wing of the spectrum because the majority of the movement has been hijacked by red pill nutjobs, which either heavily lean conservative or are there to attack left wing positions (like, y'know, most everything feminism gets involved with these days). It's not an offshoot or splinter of feminism, but a generally pretty damn explicit opponent.

Reactionary is entirely accurate unless you're being intentionally obtuse and pointedly ignoring the reality of the stuff that's been trying to use that particular appellation.

[Neonivek]

hijacked by red pill nutjobs,

Separate group.

It would be like saying Christianity was hijacked by Islam.

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Though I do looooove these double standards. Not that there isn't genuine criticism, but it is amazing how much a group suddenly deserves the criticism once they are disliked versus when they are liked.

I wonder if I could find the article that says the MRA are a terrorist group.

[Frumple]

... yeah, in your head and probably no where else. Have fun with that.

[Neonivek]

... yeah, in your head and probably no where else. Have fun with that.

The MRA are terrorist article? It is a long since debunked article. Or are you referring to something else?

[Sheb]

... yeah, in your head and probably no where else. Have fun with that.

Seconding this.

[Neonivek]

Mmm delicious double standards.

Now if anyone ever criticizes BLM again. You are free to bring this up to shut down people who say you are being unfair towards them. You are welcome!

[Starver]

I keep getting MRAs mixed up with MREs. Do they both still taste of toasted cardboard?

[Playergamer]

I look at people who rail about MSM as media hipsters.
"Oh, I get the truth from this website you've probably never heard of. Yeah, I used to like Breitbart, before they got popular and sold out."

Hey, I rail against the mainstream media!

I don't even bother getting the truth anymore; I just think of the most ridiculous plot that'd never get published, and wham bam that's reality.

[Neonivek]

I keep getting MRAs mixed up with MREs. Do they both still taste of toasted cardboard?

Funny enough I am reminded of a German Ration that is literally a brick of nutrients. Like a bar of soap that you eat.

You can eat it straight up for a mildly unpleasant meal... Though if I remember correctly you are supposed to either make it into soup or dissolve it into like... porridge or something like that.

Hey, I rail against the mainstream media!

I don't even bother getting the truth anymore; I just think of the most ridiculous plot that'd never get published, and wham bam that's reality.

I am reminded of someone who actually framed Liberal and Conservative news side by side and shown how they sort of threated the separate presidents very similarly.

In that Fox news would give a lot more time towards Birth Deniers for Obama (I forgot the correct terms)

While Liberal news outlets pounce on everything related to Trump. (I am sorry I forgot specific examples... Look Obama had the ONE Thing... Trump has a million scandals at once)

Not that there isn't a difference between these presidents... Just so much that you can see the leanings.

Then again that person wasn't so much against political news, he was all for it. So much that he is against the sort of loops they will sometimes go through for their political agendas.