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[wierd]

And how far back does the historic data you have go?

You wont like where that goes.

Early in the evolution of early modern humans, there was a significant ecological catastrophe that nearly destroyed the human race. We know this from the extreme reduction in genetic diversity in later fossil specimens, which reached very close to the limit of what is possible for a species to endure before it cannot recover, due to genetic bottlenecking. 

This meant that mate selection was seriously pressured, and that intra-familial mating practices were the only game in town. (eg, incest. This has been determined using genetic testing of ancient remains) When taken with that angle, generalized human behavior under mate scarcity pressure results in lots of unsavory behaviors, even in modern humans (which we can use to help better understand the group behaviors of such societies). In populations where there is no strong established governmental force to enforce a restriction against ... certain practices... those practices will proliferate. See Africa, posted prior.

The horniness is not going to diminish, even when there are no mature women around-- basically. This leads to unpleasant realities as likely consequences.

It took many thousands of years for the human race to return to a large enough population for such reproductive pressures to diminish to levels sufficient to even ALLOW the invention of agriculture that Reelya mentions.

This reality alone substantiates my statement.

[martinuzz]

A few years back there was a studies done here in the Netherlands. It showed that the average age when kids first have a sexual experience with another has been dropping the past decades. It averages at 14 years nowadays (back in my highschool days 25 years ago it still averaged at 15-16). Apparently some kids start having sex as young as 11-12. I'm not talking rape, incest or whatever, just highschool (primary school in some cases) sweethearts making out. Back then it sparked some debate about whether to move sexual education forward to a younger age. I think they did do that, I think they teach kids about safe sex and condoms at around age 10 now.

[Reelya]

Previous historians generally based the idea of "average" marriage / child age on avaiable accounts which entirely focus on royal marriages / childbearing.

Those historians however didn't know about the scientific link between diet and maturation ages, and it's a given that royals weren't living on the subsistence diets that the bulk of the population was living on. The royals would have probably had puberty ages as different from the commoners as current humans are from 1800's humans, or about 5-7 years lower.

[Starver]

and couldn't even get the numbers on failed pregnancies... Soo yeah could be pulling it out of their butt.

Does this even need a punchline?


Anyhoo... America First on climate...
Also: Caitlyn Jenner

[martinuzz]

I wonder if Trump will come up with a space program funding called America First on the Moon.

[Sheb]

For that matter, all the records I know of (and yeah, they don't go that far back because we don't have record for antiquity or the middle age) show an average age of first marriage in the mid-20's. As far as I can tell wierd is basically claiming that since Reelya only have good source for recent period, he's allowed to claim that whatever the fuck he decide was the historical reality before, based on nothing.

[Sergarr]

...Maybe the best thing to do would be to cancel all future "press briefings" and hand out written responses for the sake of accuracy???

James Comey better hope that there are no "tapes" of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!

Well then.

[ChairmanPoo]

Good, good... let the hate flow...

[muldrake]

...Maybe the best thing to do would be to cancel all future "press briefings" and hand out written responses for the sake of accuracy???

James Comey better hope that there are no "tapes" of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!

Well then.

It's almost like he's deliberately fishing for Nixon comparisons.

[Descan]

Polls should really start differentiating between "Traditional Polygamy [Think Mormons]" and "New Age Hippy Dippy Polyamory" :V

[Descan]

A few years back there was a studies done here in the Netherlands. It showed that the average age when kids first have a sexual experience with another has been dropping the past decades. It averages at 14 years nowadays (back in my highschool days 25 years ago it still averaged at 15-16). Apparently some kids start having sex as young as 11-12. I'm not talking rape, incest or whatever, just highschool (primary school in some cases) sweethearts making out. Back then it sparked some debate about whether to move sexual education forward to a younger age. I think they did do that, I think they teach kids about safe sex and condoms at around age 10 now.

Ohhh man, there was a *huge* kerfuffle in my area when the provincial government started updating sex ed. To hear some people (my sister-in-law being a prime example) they were gonna start teaching kindergarteners the ins and outs of anal sex.

If one were to actually *look* at the new curriculum, it's basic stuff, and they don't even get into sexual stuff before grade 5 or 6, depending on how you cut it. Before that it's basic anatomy and consent stuff, and the differences in sexual orientation and gender identity that do exist.

The kerfuffle recently died down, I think, as more people actually started learning what was actually going to be taught and not just reactionary people going crazy in the media. Before that though, it was just... fucking... everywhere. Fuckin' idiots. "Little Jimmy doesn't need to know what a penis is!" WHAT IF HE'S BEING MOLESTED, CAROL? HE NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT THE HELL THE THING IS BEFORE HE CAN TELL PEOPLE HIS STEP-UNCLE IS TOUCHING IT, GOD DAMN.


...


Anywho.

[origamiscienceguy]

I would hope that the parents are teaching their own children that stuff. I understand that not all parents do that, but it is kind of sad.

[Strife26]

I would hope that the parents are teaching their own children that stuff. I understand that not all parents do that, but it is kind of sad.

Trusting parents to be competent is at least as naive as trusting the government to be competent. All education should be done via youtube.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I would hope that the parents are teaching their own children that stuff. I understand that not all parents do that, but it is kind of sad.

Trusting parents to be competent is at least as naive as trusting the government to be competent. All education should be done via twitter post chains by an asymmetric educational neural network AI.

Get with the times.

[sluissa]

I would hope that the parents are teaching their own children that stuff. I understand that not all parents do that, but it is kind of sad.

Trusting parents to be competent is at least as naive as trusting the government to be competent. All education should be done via twitter post chains by an asymmetric educational neural network AI.

Get with the times.

So, twitter bots? Those have turned out well.