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Reelya

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Re: AmeriPol thread: Trump Immigration Boogaloo edition
« Reply #2820 on: February 28, 2017, 06:58:04 am »

Make women pay for the cocaine and viagra.

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Re: AmeriPol thread: Trump Immigration Boogaloo edition
« Reply #2821 on: February 28, 2017, 07:31:45 am »

Wait, Trump's a pimp now? I thought those dressed better.
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Re: AmeriPol thread: Trump Immigration Boogaloo edition
« Reply #2822 on: February 28, 2017, 10:47:37 am »

Huh, this is interesting, theres a new bill in Hawaii that's been introduced that would classify homelessness as a 'medical condition', allowing doctors to prescribe homes for the homeless.

Pretty crazy and innovative solution to the homelessness problem. No idea how it would work in practice though.
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Re: AmeriPol thread: Trump Immigration Boogaloo edition
« Reply #2823 on: February 28, 2017, 10:50:40 am »

Things like park benches and spaces under bridges would be classified as "homes" so insurance doesn't have to pay out.
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Re: AmeriPol thread: Trump Immigration Boogaloo edition
« Reply #2824 on: February 28, 2017, 10:55:45 am »

Things like park benches and spaces under bridges would be classified as "homes" so insurance doesn't have to pay out.

It's sad that I could see that actually happening. But as innovative as the idea is, the article makes it clear that the problem isn't as simple as just giving them a roof over their head and some support services.

Also a clear symptom of how the health system isn't doing it's job. editwhiletyping: Actually, that seems ironic, the whole thing is a failiure of the health and mental health services, yet the solution is to turn back to the health services.
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Re: AmeriPol thread: Trump Immigration Boogaloo edition
« Reply #2825 on: February 28, 2017, 11:00:51 am »

Reminds me of a thing in England, where you could buy these jumbo-sized cardboard boxes and homeless people were getting them to make into houses. Upper-class types were outraged - and wanted the boxes banned.

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Re: AmeriPol thread: Trump Immigration Boogaloo edition
« Reply #2826 on: February 28, 2017, 11:01:20 am »

Huh, this is interesting, theres a new bill in Hawaii that's been introduced that would classify homelessness as a 'medical condition', allowing doctors to prescribe homes for the homeless.

Pretty crazy and innovative solution to the homelessness problem. No idea how it would work in practice though.
Possibly rathet than a prescription they refer people to social services
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Re: AmeriPol thread: Trump Immigration Boogaloo edition
« Reply #2827 on: February 28, 2017, 11:06:46 am »

Reminds me of a thing in England, where you could buy these jumbo-sized cardboard boxes and homeless people were getting them to make into houses. Upper-class types were outraged - and wanted the boxes banned.

Funny that the upper-class types were offended at that.

Huh, this is interesting, theres a new bill in Hawaii that's been introduced that would classify homelessness as a 'medical condition', allowing doctors to prescribe homes for the homeless.

Pretty crazy and innovative solution to the homelessness problem. No idea how it would work in practice though.
Possibly rathet than a prescription they refer people to social services

A better solution would be to actually fix the mental healthcare and general healthcare services.
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Re: AmeriPol thread: Trump Immigration Boogaloo edition
« Reply #2828 on: February 28, 2017, 11:09:16 am »

Why do that when they can slap on an expensive band-aid and wait for the utopian future that's always out of reach for some crazy reason? [/s]
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Re: AmeriPol thread: Trump Immigration Boogaloo edition
« Reply #2829 on: February 28, 2017, 12:48:30 pm »

Trump: We have to start winning wars again

I wonder who'll be invaded first: Iran, North Korea, or Mexico?

Trump makes unsupported claim that Obama was 'behind' town hall protests

Obama is back to being the devil! I wonder if he will unearth the Kenyan conspiracy theory once again...

Donald Trump says US is becoming a 'one party system'

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Donald Trump has told the "Fox and Friends" programme that he believes the US is at risk of becoming a one party political system with him as President.

In an interview aired on Tuesday morning, Mr Trump criticised the House of Representatives Democrat leader Nancy Pelosi as "incompetent".

He said the Democrat party, which is now in the minority in both House and Senate, was at risk under her leadership. The Republican nonetheless added that he "likes" a two party system.

He said: "I’ve been watching Nancy’s statements and I think she’s incompetent actually. If you look at what’s been going on with the Democrats, the party, it’s getting smaller and smaller.

"In a certain way I hate to see it because I like a two party system. We’re soon going to have a one party system. I actually think a two party system is healthy and good."
Surprisingly enough, Trump doesn't want a one party state. At least, right now.
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Re: AmeriPol thread: Trump Immigration Boogaloo edition
« Reply #2830 on: February 28, 2017, 01:04:37 pm »


The "fervent defender of liberty", McCain, has a problem with Trump's hike on defence budget.

Namely, it's way too low.
Well you must understand, Defense Hawks have been seething since the sequestration cuts way back. Only reason it hasn't been discussed more is that they've literally been seething for years now, and previously a raise of military funding wasn't on the table. They've been wanting to get those cuts removed for years, so to them, any increase has to be relative to that line. And by that line, Trump's plan is only 3% more than what it was under Obama.

Note that the other Republicans want to do entitlement reform, but Trump didn't mention that at all. Republicans have been expressing concern that it's not possible to cut discretionary funding so much as to pay for the military bump, let alone anything else.
A better solution would be to actually fix the mental healthcare and general healthcare services.
Are there examples out there of an effective, comprehensive mental healthcare system? Not to say that there isnt, but are there examples, successful models?
Well, not with him in power. Who would he attack otherwise?
The media.
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Re: AmeriPol thread: Trump Immigration Boogaloo edition
« Reply #2831 on: February 28, 2017, 01:40:27 pm »

Huh, this is interesting, theres a new bill in Hawaii that's been introduced that would classify homelessness as a 'medical condition', allowing doctors to prescribe homes for the homeless.

Pretty crazy and innovative solution to the homelessness problem. No idea how it would work in practice though.
Possibly rathet than a prescription they refer people to social services
If the available social services were sufficient, they wouldn't be trying to find those sorts of workarounds, heh. Folks doing that kind of work tend to be pretty motivated, but they're also usually seven different kinds of spit roasted by budgeting and laws/regulation.

Though I did just realize it's vaguely amusing that most of the social service etc. regulation has come out of the conservative/republican sector. Apparently it's okay when they do it and it's fucking the poor instead of stopping the rich from fucking everything :V
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Re: AmeriPol thread: Trump Immigration Boogaloo edition
« Reply #2832 on: February 28, 2017, 01:43:14 pm »

Republicans are usually not known to be outraged by the concept of cutting or restricting (nonmilitary) governmental programs.
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Re: AmeriPol thread: Trump Immigration Boogaloo edition
« Reply #2833 on: February 28, 2017, 01:49:35 pm »

Reminds me of a thing in England, where you could buy these jumbo-sized cardboard boxes and homeless people were getting them to make into houses. Upper-class types were outraged - and wanted the boxes banned.
Funny that the upper-class types were offended at that.
Keep in mind that England is also where they had a competition to design the best "hostile architecture" that would drive off the homeless. The winner was a sideways concrete bench that you could only lean on, preventing anybody from sleeping on it.
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Re: AmeriPol thread: Trump Immigration Boogaloo edition
« Reply #2834 on: February 28, 2017, 01:50:20 pm »

State budget cut is now reported at 37%, worse that expected.


Spicer has been accused of planting a fake story about a journalist in retaliation for leaks. Not easy to summarise.


A leaked report suggests the Republican ACA replacement plan would result in a 30% drop in coverage in the independent markets. No exact figures, but that would mean millions of people. Also huge cuts to federal subsidies would either leave people or the states out of pocket.


Trump's Fox and Friends interview sounds like a total clusterfuck. Haven't seen the full thing or even a good roundup, just lots of scattered stories and WTFs. The biggest one so far being that the buck stops with 'them' when it comes to the Yemin raid.


Bush has spoken up again this time with more details.[quoteGeorge W. Bush Breaks His Silence on the Direction of the Country Under President Trump: ‘I Don’t Like the Racism and Name-Calling’]“No. When President Obama got elected, friends would call: ‘You must speak out! You must do this, you must do that.’ Turns out, other people are doing the same thing this time. I didn’t feel like speaking out before because I didn’t want to complicate the job and I’m not going to this time. However, at the Bush Center we are speaking up.”

The couple list some of the center’s work that stands in contrast to Trump’s isolationism: immigration ceremonies, women’s reproductive-health programs in Africa, and leadership training for Muslim women that the Bush Center brings to Texas from the Middle East. Asked if Trump’s determination to restrict immigration and travel from Muslim countries threatens the Bush Center programs, he shrugs. “Now that you mention it, it might bother me but we’ll figure out how to bring them over.”

“There’s a lot of ways to speak out,” the former president says, “but it’s really through actions defending the values important to Laura and me. … We’re a blessed nation, and we ought to help others.”[/quote]


To end black history month Betsy DeVos shows she hasn't paid any attention to black history.
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Donald Trump met Monday at the White House with the leaders of a number of historically black colleges and universities. Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos commemorated the meeting with one of the more bonkers statements you will ever see a 21st century politician make, somehow twisting an attempt to bring up her pet issue of school choice into praise for the segregated higher education system of the Jim Crow South.
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Second, this official 2017 federal government press release celebrates legal segregation (!!!) on the grounds that the Jim Crow education system gave black students "more options," as if there was a robust competition between HBCUs and white universities for their patronage. (When black Mississippian James Meredith chose the "option" of enrolling at the University of Mississippi in 1962, a massive white mob formed on the campus; two people were shot to death and hundreds injured in the ensuing battle/riot, during which federal marshals came under heavy gunfire, requiring the ultimate intervention of 20,000 U.S. soldiers and thousands more National Guardsmen.)


The FCC Chairman has denounced Net Neutrality as a mistake. From the article he has already started chipping at regulations around the edges and is likely to ramp this up more soon.
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