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Duuvian

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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #54255 on: December 17, 2024, 02:24:06 am »

Like Shonus said I think the correlation was mostly due to a person willing to smoke an illegal joint being more likely to try an illegal other drug, and because they started backwards and looked at hard drug users. I didn't know that part. Basically, overbearing marihuana enforcement was mostly political rather than a response to a threat to public safety. Generally such actual (non health related because smoking and other forms of ingestion would be various levels of harmful to health, or at least hallucinatory levels of harmful to health which to be fair since I'm giving this caveat [which is more than the Gateway Drug people would have done], is completely sufficient for agendapushing) threats were accessory to the black market created by prohibition. It's easy to say everything is going wrong because of those people and look it's because of this smelly thing they are smoking, and it's surprisingly easy to sneak in ways to make money from doing so. It sort of creates a political underclass that polite society preys upon, if I were to be dramatic.

In reality, the two reasons I can think of offhand for why marihuana was made illegal when it was, were because of the aforementioned discrimination being of political use by shitty politicians, and probably more importantly, hemp paper was just developed and it was cheaper than wood pulp paper at that specific time. Hearst, the infamous newspaper baron, had sunk a large investment into paper mills for his newspapers.

That's why it's important to remember if you are dumb for the present, you are dumb for the future and the future's future as well. Mandatory amen.

If you want to see some of the early days, there is a most famous video called Reefer Madness. Remember that my government can't legally hire the target of this movie ever since! Not even the most otherwise orthodox ones! Or else it's illegal! Forever! Like some kind of hook to be pulled on! No one is allowed to touch the hook!

EDIT: That said, it's not something for everyone. On-Duty people or whatever, I'm not going to pretend ... to know the term. Those ones, those make more sense, man. Afterwards though? After 8 hour shift? Maybe. Ask the scientists... the honest ones bro. The honest ones. Not the ones in Kobra. EDIT: man... the reference is not whatever the real kobra acronym is, the GI Joe, movie one. I don't know what that is but I bet that's a real acronym for something <ponders>

EDIT2: I rememebered something, man.

https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/health-plans/cobra

AAhh, I forgot that was named cobra. That's not spelled the same. I know less about it than Kobra, which is already not much because I like Batman more. I didn't name these things, I only watch the cartoons.

EDIT#: Egads the GIJoe one IS spelled COBRA. <enters paranoid state> I joke! While that can happen from marihuana, that is a harmless... INSURANCE PLAN!?

This joke is barely funny even right now, and I will never understand it again until the public is again openly voicing anger at insurance companies because it's cool again. So... 5-10 years, barring a severe market downturn... I apologize, it's my window for the comedy bit about insurance I practiced last time... because both parties take their legal bribes... without which there would be no window for a comedy routine because things would happen. Hey, remember when that fucker centrist conservative Democrat Max Baucus FUCKED US ALL by taking insurance money to be the holdout vote on Obamacare, then went backstage with the insurance execs and wrote in that their service was mandatory and had no competition? Remember that Democrats? I sure do, and that's why this isn't a comedy routine, and I'm never going to vote for a shitlord convervative Democrat ever again. Ever. I have spent the past 20 years hearing horseshit spew from these people's fucking mouths, and no I'm not going to be nice about it. Kiss my rural, pasty white left of center ass you fucking corrupt ass moneygrubbing incompetence lording and deceitful thieves of the future. Take your D and shove it up, you wrinkley shitheads and asslicking train of makeup and buttcover artists. I have never seen such a greater mess of self-righteous yet ignoble humanity than the centrist leadership of the Democratic party, and I absolutely, positively cannot continue pretending or otherwise supporting it. Such a disaster I would never have predicted, yet there they are. Fuck em the centrists, and if you are smart, you will fuck em too, GenZ and young people in general. You will get the same or better results, this I can promise, because the centrists or conservative or moderate or blue dog or whatever shitty moniker they go by are corrupt as shit even when they adopt your own title like progressive. I'm not even going to try to point you in a better direction; I'd suggest making your own thing but who wants to listen, right? All I'm going to do is point you away from that stanking fucking mess before it wastes decades of your time lying to you, for pretty much fuckall on your important issues, and then throws it away because it doesn't like you because TV said so?  Or because a visibly corrupt and incompetent security apparatus doesn't like you? Turns out they didn't like the centrists either... but that's beyond the point. The point is, unless the Democratic party significantly changes, it's fucked and the part that needs to change is actively stabbing the rest of it in the gut because of the whole myriad of outside the party interests and it's stated objectives thing they've had going on. It's time to bail out and do our own thing.

I will advise from here, my throne, upon such things as esoteric foreign policy that no one else wants to read. Perhaps I shall be wrong when this happens, and this should be considered. It's also why it would be cool if we don't completely turn knowledgeable people like our good pal Shonus here against us with our insufferable arrogance, and only yell for really good reason and with much thought but to never stop yelling about issues of corruption because this is in both interests. However I do think this is a better route than being forced into a position like the last four years. The first two years went swell and then the air changed and these fucking centrists blew it. I don't know what else to say other than they blew it, and it was because they feared us. I really think we all should show them why, but in a, you know, positive and generally uplifting manner yet one to be taken seriously because it does serious things well. This is because I want to be able to stop yelling at old people about politics through the internet by the time I am among the old people.

I would ask the most honororable GenZ to at least partly accompany we millennials and the part of GenX that approves of skateboards in politically defeating our graspy elders out of necessity rather than choice. I can't promise more than a sub-legion of millennials after all and that has never proven to be enough, even when the ancient heroes known as 'Hippies' more commonly walked the lands. Our GenX allies are amongst the wisest of us, but care must be taken lest we select the GenX who were left behind in the Business School or the tower of the Actually Very Conservative District Attorney Office when the Tony Hawk spirit led our true friends away. Even most of these Hawkless are quite excellent, yet we must remember the primary purpose of business school: to teach the political stance that may best be termed "drunken". This is funny because it is also known as a place for proclivities in drink, but it is less funny when it's philosophy becomes belligerence turned upon you after staggering across the center line once again.

In short, Bernie sounds pissed and so am I. On top that, either the media is generating a fury because they are shitlords or AOC was snubbed for the oversight committee. I don't know which, which suggests the former, but really, in all honesty in the political sense it doesn't matter because the perception is there. Can someone who hasn't been made into a pariah in their communities yet put together some protests against both parties? That's what I'd like to see from my rural ass location because that's far as fuck to drive. I promise I might rub my hands together in a plotting motion and murmur "Good... goood.." even if I can't attend. Perhaps I will press my fingertips together... and wait for a car to go by outside so my glasses have a sweet sheen move over them from the passing headlight... that's how I will do my best plotting and scheming... this I think is correct after the movement we have seen.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #54256 on: December 17, 2024, 05:10:36 am »

EDIT#: Egads the GIJoe one IS spelled COBRA.
Baron Ironblood's betrayal of his own Red Shadows was a jump-the-shark moment, as far as I was concerned...</obscure British reference>
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« Reply #54257 on: December 17, 2024, 05:23:50 am »

Nah, it's shaking out that way whether I like it or not. These people are not governing well in positions held by centrists, and I'd rather have no party than to be with them. That's not how I feel of most of the actual voterbases who generally and usually rightfully don't give a shit about the factions of the Democratic party unless someone is yelling curses at it, but if they are captured by bad leadership I'm simply not going to support it. I actually have spent a lot of time paying attention to politics, and I disagree significantly with the party on more and more issues. Sadly, I don't feel that I have a place in the Democratic party. They are running intelligence community candidates for senate in my state in both parties. It's almost as if an evil presence has noted your protests and materialized the exact opposite of what you want in order to spite you in ways that others will feel is immaterial. I'm not going to support a party that makes me feel like that. It wasn't even more than half a decade ago when the party was marching against that kind of authoritarian social control. You want to know where I learned those words? In reports about the fucking crackdowns in Iran only to read that these fucking dipshits are implementing (some of) the same shit here. I guess the most eminent leadership had forgotten in that span. In addition, do you know what happened days after I posited some independent thinking and breaking from the centrist's grasp?

Why look what happened
https://apnews.com/article/duggan-detroit-michigan-governor-independent-democrat-5dba0e7b2d9304c2a00d716c9cd6ca05
Detroit Mayor Duggan, a longtime Democrat, will run for Michigan governor in 2026 as independent

Now this Mayor Adams' Family security faction Democrat is going to split the vote. You see, I qualified not voting as not voting for the corrupt ass centrists in the Democratic party. So weirdly enough there they go, off to split the vote like the dirty bastages they are. Surely an odd coincidence though that doesn't matter, because at this point I think the cure I like most is political fire for this political charnal house.
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