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[Lord Shonus]

I want to emphasize three things.

1. This crime is often punished with a fine, even for the felony level. Jail time is not impossible (especially given his trial antics), but if he doesn't get it it is not a case of him getting special treatment.

2. Biden will now be able to use the phrase "my opponent, convicted felon Donald Trump" at-will during the election. This is incredibly damaging.

3. Of all the charges facing Trump, this is the one where the prosecution had the weakest case. Even accounting for venue, this is not a good sign for Trump's prospects in other trials.

[MorleyDev]

Aaaand he's already using it to beg for money.

Apparently the system is simultaneously so corrupt he can get convicted on false charges and something he can fight against but he needs your money, don't think about it too much just give him your money now! xD

[Sirus]

Like they say, grifters gotta grift. And Trump's a long-time, practiced grifter (despite what he'd have you believe about earning vast fortunes all through cunning business acumen), so the fact that he's already begging for money should surprise precisely no one.

Shame that he'll probably dodge jail time, and the whole "convicted felon" thing isn't going to dissuade anyone who had already planned on voting for him.

[martinuzz]

I hope some next court case wil declare Trump to be a criminal organisation, so donating money to him becomes a crime too.

[MorleyDev]

Trumps already eyeing up his next lot of GOP purges between the ones left in the Law & Order party who say Law & Order must be respected vs those who say Law & Order is for suckers because it happened to one of us.

[McTraveller]

I'm having intrusive thoughts that the present major Verizon outage is somehow related to this. Phones going to SOS mode / no signal in several major metro areas, in quite different geographic areas.  West coast, Great Lakes, more.

[hector13]

There’s a saying about blaming malice when it could be as easily explained by incompetence that probably applies here.

[Maximum Spin]

I hope some next court case wil declare Trump to be a criminal organisation, so donating money to him becomes a crime too.

That wouldn't be legally possible in the US.

[anewaname]

In the time-period before the elections, it will be difficult for biden's immediate circle to attack trump regarding the fake-elector and documents cases, but if the state-level fake-electors cases proceed against trump's minions during that time, the results of this hush-money case will serve to imply Trump was in charge of, and knowing of, those fake-elector plots.

[Maximum Spin]

In the time-period before the elections, it will be difficult for biden's immediate circle to attack trump regarding the fake-elector and documents cases, but if the state-level fake-electors cases proceed against trump's minions during that time, the results of this hush-money case will serve to imply Trump was in charge of, and knowing of, those fake-elector plots.

If you mean as a legal argument in court, it's pretty unlikely that a judge would allow that argument to be made, and, if one did, it would be grounds for reversal. You can't, as a matter of law, use unrelated bad acts to "imply" that someone was the kind of person who might have done something - you have to prove he actually did it in the specific case. If they don't have evidence that he was in charge of THOSE actions, it's not going to fly.

I also separately strongly suspect that the fake elector business will fail at the Supreme Court but that's a separate issue.

[anewaname]

I said "In the time-period before the elections..." because I was referring to how it could influence voter perception before the election.

You may not be able to use "unrelated bad acts" in court, but they get used to alter perceptions all the time. The fake-elector cases are in swing states. If those cases are active and in the local news before the presidential election, there will be discussion about trump as as the one who was in charge of and knew of, those fake-elector plots.

[Maximum Spin]

Yeah, I just wasn't sure if you meant in court or outside it. Outside it, sure, although polling sure doesn't seem to suggest that it's working so far.

[Lord Shonus]

Polling is straight-up broken. Last I looked it was something like one response per thousand calls, and there's a definite skewing in the "willing to accept a random call" demographic.

[Great Order]

I have one word for this whole situation:

HA!

[martinuzz]

I hope some next court case wil declare Trump to be a criminal organisation, so donating money to him becomes a crime too.

That wouldn't be legally possible in the US.

So it is totally okay to donate a billion dollars to IS?