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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #50115 on: December 04, 2022, 05:23:56 pm »

Trump is too self-centered to work in a cooperative role like speaker and everyone knows it. He was able to function in the executive branch only because he was at the top in the authoritarian role.
I could see a world where the Republicans hire a Trump wrangler whose job it is to give Trump an important sounding role with lots of publicity but no actual authority, e.g. sure Trump you can be the executive president of the people's public liaison office
I am very much minded of the closing(-ish) scene of Pratchett's Faust Eric and the Supreme Life President of Hell.

For those that have read it, I think you'll know of what I mean, though it would need tuning to our own past incumbant's tendencies, which aren't exactly that kind of hyperidealised beaurocracy... ;)
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« Reply #50116 on: December 09, 2022, 12:12:22 pm »

The dominoes are starting to fall.

Still don't know if this will result in him being criminally prosecuted. He'll probably just claim ignorance and that he didn't drive these decisions.

But I would be surprised if anyone being criminally indicted doesn't immediately take a plea and give the Feds everything they want.
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« Reply #50117 on: December 09, 2022, 12:38:47 pm »

I'll be shocked if they turn up hard evidence that Trump was directly involved in it, so most likely he'll victimize some executives and throw them under the bus.

Still, one more thing going against him in 2024.
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« Reply #50118 on: December 09, 2022, 01:30:50 pm »

That's the thing about throwing people under the bus. If you have no loyalty to them, they have no loyalty to you. So if he did personally direct his staff to commit fraud, that will come out.
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« Reply #50119 on: December 09, 2022, 01:46:14 pm »

I'll be shocked if they turn up hard evidence that Trump was directly involved in it, so most likely he'll victimize some executives and throw them under the bus.
Him being directly involved in it was apparently part of the evidence that lead to the conviction of the company, for what it's worth. We'll see if anything will come of it, but odds are better than they were prior to that guilty decision.
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« Reply #50120 on: December 09, 2022, 01:48:08 pm »

Perhaps, but I'll believe he goes to jail when he does.  I doubt anyone has shared much detail on what evidence they've found, but unless they have some kind of recordings of him ordering it I imagine it'll be hard to get enough evidence to convict him.
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« Reply #50121 on: December 09, 2022, 07:03:43 pm »

I'll be shocked if they turn up hard evidence that Trump was directly involved in it, so most likely he'll victimize some executives and throw them under the bus.

Still, one more thing going against him in 2024.

Apparently he initialed or signed a memo confirming a pay cut to an executive for the precise amount of money the corporation was paying for said executive’s rent.

Weisselberg took the fall not because he was thrown under the bus but to protect Trump. He’s been working for Trump for decades, and was briefing both the prosecution and the defense. Trump is throwing him under the bus insofar as he’s blaming him for the episode, while still paying him. He’s a scapegoat, at best.
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« Reply #50122 on: December 14, 2022, 08:53:35 pm »

Hello! Here's some more attempted fascism from TX. They're making a list and checking it twice ;)
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« Reply #50123 on: December 14, 2022, 09:00:31 pm »

"Sorry folks, if you're intersex or had a mistake on your birth certificate it's off to the camps with you nothing to worry about.

Trans people, this is worrying and we hate you and you should be scared of us."
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« Reply #50124 on: December 14, 2022, 10:47:36 pm »

They're literally floating making registries in Texas, Ohio, and Virginia . . . I'm disgusted.
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« Reply #50125 on: December 15, 2022, 12:08:42 am »

Yup! Turns out I was right on the suspicions that kept me from updating my documents there for the past half decade. Always figured there were even odds of fascists using that specific government data to target trans people here.
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« Reply #50126 on: December 15, 2022, 03:43:31 am »

What's the on doctor/health information privacy in the US? This seems like it would be a breach of it.
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« Reply #50127 on: December 15, 2022, 04:24:47 am »

They're using DMV records, noting who has changed the gender on their driver's license or other identifying documents. That's not protected data.
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« Reply #50128 on: December 15, 2022, 04:34:52 am »

Ah, I read that but I didn't catch that ;)
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« Reply #50129 on: December 19, 2022, 02:44:18 pm »

Get your popcorn ready!  Jan 6 recommendations are out...
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