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[Egan_BW]

North Korea is threatening imminent nuclear war.
Trump's response is basically, 'Bring it!'.

I'm scared you guys. Most of my cartoon porn is made in South Korea =[

If SK gets vaporized, I'm sure that NK will be able to pick up the slack.

[TempAcc]

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Bless pepsi guy, the only neckbeard I'd prob willingly hang out with.

Except I wouldn't drink his pepsi, so he prob wouldn't like me :c

[Loud Whispers]

North Korea is threatening imminent nuclear war.
Trump's response is basically, 'Bring it!'.
I'm scared you guys. Most of my cartoon porn is made in South Korea =[

Waifus are the first casualty of war

You say that but it hits something: A Parody, no matter how extreme, is indistinguishable from the real thing IF it is likewise just as extreme.
So your call: Someone taking a dump on feminists... Or a person from Tumblr in a politically charged chat.

Whilst it is true that parody is indistinguishable from reality or irony for that matter, whilst one cannot know the true intentions of that reddit poster - based on the context, it is highly likely they were doing a funny and making a joke

The ANTIFA had done this to themselves. They made themselves an enemy and will go after anyone that they think is against them.

I'm more concerned that antifa are going to cause a backlash that will not be limited to them, this will in turn drastically increase the rate in which both sides escalate violence against one another
In other terms, you argue that it is one thing for them to disagree and debate, and another thing to attack - I agree, but see it has gone beyond that point, and it is now one thing to be hospitalizing people, and another for sending them in body bags. Thus far cooler heads have not prevailed and if left unchecked, these clashes of a few hundred people can drastically alter the behaviours of hundreds of thousands of Americans
That's without even considering the effect it's having in the elites of American politics, economics and academia

[SquatchHammer]

The ANTIFA had done this to themselves. They made themselves an enemy and will go after anyone that they think is against them.

I'm more concerned that antifa are going to cause a backlash that will not be limited to them, this will in turn drastically increase the rate in which both sides escalate violence against one another
In other terms, you argue that it is one thing for them to disagree and debate, and another thing to attack - I agree, but see it has gone beyond that point, and it is now one thing to be hospitalizing people, and another for sending them in body bags. Thus far cooler heads have not prevailed and if left unchecked, these clashes of a few hundred people can drastically alter the behaviours of hundreds of thousands of Americans
That's without even considering the effect it's having in the elites of American politics, economics and academia

Berkeley students were calling for segregation. Watch the video and see they let students of color go through but not anyone white. That University is being reckless and rebellious before the clashes with ANTIFA.

[TempAcc]

I feel antifa are biting way more than they expected or have the capacity to chew. They're right about one thing, actualy nazis and fascists are using their dweebery to actualy show up and cause trouble. Antifa is creating the scenario, and the neo nazis are taking advantage of it, and antifa's response, as always, is as puerile as ever: "lol lets bring more shit and make more noise and pretend we're actualy fighting fascists". Its like the scrawny hipster kid challenging the burly creepy kid with burzum tattoos to a fight every day, and then one day the creepy kid finally shows up with a knife.

People like spencer are becoming more active while antifa are making themselves look worse than ever. Its antifa's self fulfilling prophecy, they're summoning their own enemy, except they think its an enemy they can fight, and they can't, and more people will get hurt because of it.

Berkley is already a haven for this sort of behavior because of it, and it'll only get worse as antifa somehow tries to fight fascists by adopting the tactics of their supposed enemy.

[Neonivek]

In all fairness Segregation is very progressive right now.

[misko27]

Be safe Americlaps. A wise man once said to me to be kind to one another, because no one else will, behind all the dank memes serious troubles are brewing - not even Pepsi can stop this. With hope it's clear to see small cores of extremists are doing most of the brawling, yet with caution one must watch, as small groups of extremists often shake the world, world wars were started over less and revolution is a spectator sport

I'd like first to step in and say that world wars do not start for small reasons. They do not, have not, and if they follow the pattern, will continue to not be for small reasons. If all you saw on St. Vitus' day, 1914 was the spilling of blood of an important noble by a radical nationalist, you missed the point. I mean what, did you think World War One started because Great Britain, France, Italy, and Russia all really, really jived with the goals of Yugoslavism, or because they wanted to defend Serbia or such nonsense? Or that Germany, the Ottoman Empire, Bulgaria; all these nations really agreed with Austria-Hungary doing whatever? Nonsense.

I'm not sure that I need be worried about Berkeley, frankly. Provocateurs fighting provocateurs do not alone a fire make. Sparks with no tinder.

[SquatchHammer]

I'm not sure that I need be worried about Berkeley, frankly. Provocateurs fighting provocateurs do not alone a fire make. Sparks with no tinder.

It's not going to cause WW3 but it can very well start the second American Civil War. One which wont be as clear cut where the lines are as was the first one.

[Strife26]

Sometimes I wonder if you can even sense satire, parody, memes, or just someone being an ass and not actually being serious, Neo. :v

You say that but it hits something: A Parody, no matter how extreme, is indistinguishable from the real thing IF it is likewise just as extreme.

So your call: Someone taking a dump on feminists... Or a person from Tumblr.

From my caliland dorm level, it's completely impossible to tell the #RESISTTRUMP flyers and rhetoric around here from parody. The best solace is how laughably incompetent antifa idiots are.

[Loud Whispers]

I'd like first to step in and say that world wars do not start for small reasons.

Aye, my comparison was for the sake that world wars, the greatest escalation of human conflict, were started over less - thus putting the prospect of escalation on the American scale in perspective

They do not, have not, and if they follow the pattern, will continue to not be for small reasons.

Nor would an American spring have its factions fight for small reasons, however a conflict starting over small reasons and escalating to greater conflict has been par the course cross the world for fair bit of human history, from riots to revolutions

If all you saw on St. Vitus' day, 1914 was the spilling of blood of an important noble by a radical nationalist, you missed the point. I mean what, did you think World War One started because Great Britain, France, Italy, and Russia all really, really jived with the goals of Yugoslavism, or because they wanted to defend Serbia or such nonsense? Or that Germany, the Ottoman Empire, Bulgaria; all these nations really agreed with Austria-Hungary doing whatever? Nonsense.

Yes, I really think all the Great Powers sent their best men to die in the trenches for the sake of one man

Lol no, conflict triggers are not the same as the underlying factors which allowed them to arise. These brawls wherein people are being hospitalized would be alike the riots of previous American years, wherein much property damage would be done, people hospitalized and arrested but things returning more or less to normal later - were it not for these underlying factors. The USA has drawn its battle lines and the weaker faction has shown stunning willingness to attack the faction upon which it depends upon for its physical security, a situation which would rapidly devolve into barbarism at the suspension of the rule of law - which would not happen for as long as civil butthurt did not turn into civil discontent. With the clashes of antifa and the right, followed by the steady convergence of neo-fascist groups into a consolidated organization, coupled with the tacit silence of partisans and the difficulties in policing the USA, in the event of these brawls turning into murders shit will hit the fan - the mainstream partisan groups on left and right need only join the combat in sufficient numbers so as to dramatically alter the power balance of the USA, without even needing to mobilize a majority of people
What was it in the American Revolution, 30% supported independence, 30% supported Britain, 40% watched to see who would win. Only in this case it would not be a fight, it would be a massacre considering the sheer discrepancy in capabilities of the two, one which would leave the USA in a dark pit tbh

I'm not sure that I need be worried about Berkeley, frankly. Provocateurs fighting provocateurs do not alone a fire make. Sparks with no tinder.

One man gets hospitalized, antifa is sweeped from the streets, responds with reorganization and armament to prepare for round two. With both street brawlers having the backing of their partisan allies, the potential for backlash should there ever come a moment where two brawling factions bring guns to a streetfight is fire while the USA is the gunpowder

[TempAcc]

>mfw using a gas bomb while standing upwind and having to retreat.

[SquatchHammer]

>mfw using a gas bomb while standing upwind and having to retreat.

Yes they did that but then they were using M-80s and other fireworks on the other crowd.

[Loud Whispers]

>mfw using a gas bomb while standing upwind and having to retreat.

I remember a while back in one of the previous Ameripol threads we had a hilarious discussion on the combat effectiveness of the various extremist groups in the USA and Spanish Civil War, I can't remember who said it but one of the posters had the realization that they were arguing fervently for the cause that their side was capable of being efficient militants and terrorists - it echoed of Hitler facestab calculations in its insightful and absurd nature. I still maintain that the anarchists' successes were really just coasting on the communists better organized efforts, and were neither able to thwart the fascists or the communists owing to their poorly organized warbands, and maintain today's examples showcase the same issues, being much too much reliant upon having an overpowering mob capable of attacking individuals, but otherwise incapable of breaking the formations of any even slightly disciplined foes

Doing things like throw smoke bombs upwind is rather symbolic of the whole shooting your own foot out of ideological refusal to have a leader

That does raise an interesting question, why are you guys' Antifa anarchists and not communists like enlightened Yurop?

[SquatchHammer]

That does raise an interesting question, why are you guys' Antifa anarchists and not communists like enlightened Yurop?

Some of them "pretend" (and I throw that term loosely around) that they are "communists"...

[Playergamer]

video surfaced recently from a right-wing journalist who was right in the crowd when the smoke grenade landed, it was great.

Bomb lands behind the lines, someone yells 'throw it back,' and a second guy runs over, shouting "Don't, leave it, it's on our side." Smoke blows the wrong direction, completely covers the two lines, and the guy who stopped them from throwing it back yells "Charge!" Trump side charges, antifa rout.

I think everybody there learned a very important lesson: street fights aren't decided by who's stronger, or who has more people, they're decided by who seizes initiative. Antifa doesn't really have leaders, so they act individually, throwing bottles and punches. That might work against Richard Spencer, but it doesn't win them fights.