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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #49800 on: October 28, 2022, 09:58:47 pm »

‘Tain’t just the Republicans doing this. The entire political landscape is fucked.
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« Reply #49801 on: October 28, 2022, 10:13:45 pm »

No, it basically is GOP and their political allies. The incidence rate of right wing to not-right wing terrorism/political violence in the US is... not equitable. Even a little, if you want to see some of the numbers involved -- far as I'm aware they're similarly slanted in regards to shit that doesn't actually have a body count.

The political landscape is fucked, but make no mistake that fuckery is coming primarily from a specific direction and not to a small degree.
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« Reply #49802 on: October 28, 2022, 10:42:09 pm »

No, it basically is GOP and their political allies. The incidence rate of right wing to not-right wing terrorism/political violence in the US is... not equitable. Even a little, if you want to see some of the numbers involved -- far as I'm aware they're similarly slanted in regards to shit that doesn't actually have a body count.

The political landscape is fucked, but make no mistake that fuckery is coming primarily from a specific direction and not to a small degree.

Yeah, this. It really is not a "both sides" situation at this point.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #49803 on: October 28, 2022, 11:01:20 pm »

That article is very specific to antifa, which isn’t what I was talking about.

Attacks and threats on politicians happen on both sides of the aisle. I will agree - and admit my bias against conservatives - that the violence from the Right tends to be of the more abhorrent variety (not just threats) and is probably in no small part down to the bullshit rhetoric from the Republicans (THEY STOLE THE ELECTION WE NEED TO TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY THEY’RE LETTING IMMIGRANTS COME IN TO STEAL OUR WOMEN AND RAPE OUR JOBS et al) and the lack of education in general and specifically about the electoral system and process in America.

As to the article… yeah. Right wing nutters are more dangerous than left wing nutters. Also, the statistic is wrong… one person was killed by antifa, versus the 300+ by right wing fuckheads. Got some catching up to do.
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« Reply #49804 on: October 29, 2022, 12:29:57 am »

Yeah the Left does do some fedposting.  Oh- that's the thing where a frustrated lefty says something violent.  It's called fedposting because that's what the FBI infiltrated leftist groups and did, a lot, especially in the black civil rights movement.  It's considered foolish because it's playing into the FBI's continuing operation to fabricate excuses to arrest leftists.

Anyway the Right keeps manufacturing actual spree-killers and assassins and I think that's also a problem.  which is worse, who can say
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #49805 on: October 29, 2022, 03:43:28 am »

That and fedposting is a whole bunch of opportunistic entrapment; it goes beyond right or left wing, ppl even suspect a lot of these tiktok challenges that encourage filming yourself conducting crimes are fed entrapment schemes

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« Reply #49806 on: October 29, 2022, 07:19:56 am »

tiktok challenges that encourage filming yourself conducting crimes

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« Reply #49807 on: October 29, 2022, 08:53:03 am »

tiktok challenges that encourage filming yourself conducting crimes

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There’s the Kia challenge off the top of my head.
It was recently in the news because some kids got dead because of it
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« Reply #49808 on: October 29, 2022, 09:01:34 am »

tiktok challenges that encourage filming yourself conducting crimes

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There’s the Kia challenge off the top of my head.
It was recently in the news because some kids got dead because of it
There have been tiktok challenges based around narrowly avoiding death in various ways (the one that comes to mind was a somewhat recent challenge about stepping in front of moving trucks to make them stop), so yeah this doesn't surprise me at all.
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« Reply #49809 on: October 29, 2022, 01:24:16 pm »

Wait, what?  People are intentionally jumping in front of cars basically for what amounts to a dare?

Is it bad that I have no sympathy for these people? I can't imagine how I'd feel as a driver if some random person intentionally tried to get me to hit them, let alone succeeded...  :o :'(
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #49810 on: October 29, 2022, 01:30:28 pm »

Fuck didn't South Park do an episode on this shit literal years ago.

This really is the fucky timeline we're living in, isn't it.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #49811 on: October 29, 2022, 03:50:12 pm »

Wait, what?  People are intentionally jumping in front of cars basically for what amounts to a dare?

Is it bad that I have no sympathy for these people? I can't imagine how I'd feel as a driver if some random person intentionally tried to get me to hit them, let alone succeeded...  :o :'(
I mean, basically exactly that is what killed peer pressure  for me (because it nearly killed me first) when I was a kid, early teens or late pre-teens. Went on a school trip with a bunch of highschoolers and they convinced me to run across an active street, came within (tiny kid) arm's reach of an oncoming van. If I had been just a little slower or the van a little faster, they would have turned a 10-ish year old into roadkill. If it's youngins doing it, I have very personal sympathy for them, heh.

... if they're much older than that, though, yeah, they're being suicidally stupid and probably should know better. Still, peer pressure is a damn strong thing at times.
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« Reply #49812 on: October 29, 2022, 05:13:13 pm »

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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #49813 on: October 29, 2022, 05:43:34 pm »

Wait, what?  People are intentionally jumping in front of cars basically for what amounts to a dare?

Is it bad that I have no sympathy for these people? I can't imagine how I'd feel as a driver if some random person intentionally tried to get me to hit them, let alone succeeded...  :o :'(
I mean, basically exactly that is what killed peer pressure  for me (because it nearly killed me first) when I was a kid, early teens or late pre-teens. Went on a school trip with a bunch of highschoolers and they convinced me to run across an active street, came within (tiny kid) arm's reach of an oncoming van. If I had been just a little slower or the van a little faster, they would have turned a 10-ish year old into roadkill. If it's youngins doing it, I have very personal sympathy for them, heh.

... if they're much older than that, though, yeah, they're being suicidally stupid and probably should know better. Still, peer pressure is a damn strong thing at times.

When I was in middle school, some of the other kids got in trouble for standing by the road connecting us to the high school (literally one stadium away - the two schools were separated by a football field) and jumping on the hoods of cars. That road had a 20mph speed limit, but that wouldn't have prevented severe injuy if a kid missed their jump and got run over.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #49814 on: October 30, 2022, 05:58:40 am »

tiktok challenges that encourage filming yourself conducting crimes
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Ppl seriously live streaming break-in attempts to ATMs or joyriding stolen cars or showing off their illegal gun arsenal
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