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[Lord Shonus]

Hiding assets to avoid paying a lawsuit is a crime. The amount he's already been nigh-irrevocably hit with is enough to not only wipe out most estimates of his current wealth but to inflict massive garnishment on any future wages.  Or, he can try to hide the cash, get caught (he's an idiot, he will get caught), go to jail, then lose all his money and have any future income garnished.

[Micro102]

It speaks to my sadness of the growing trend to "it's ok to 'stick it to the rich and powerful, because they are rich and powerful" - it de-humanizes those people (as heinous as they may be), which puts us as no better than them... just with fewer resources.  It's not ok to "stick it to" anyone...

No, I'd say that exploiting people to gain money and power is very different from punishing people for exploiting people to gain money and power. If someone commits a mass shooting, we don't go "If the cop shoots the mass murderer, they would be just as bad as the murderer." Intent matters, and at some point enough wealth requires the exploitation of a lot of people in a bad way, and I can safely say that if someone has a billion dollars (I'm not saying Alex Jones has a billion dollars, this is just an easy line to draw right now), they did so by grinding people up into money. Squeezed as much as they could out of some group of people or another that statistically they caused someone's untimely demise.

[EuchreJack]

Hiding assets to avoid paying a lawsuit is a crime. The amount he's already been nigh-irrevocably hit with is enough to not only wipe out most estimates of his current wealth but to inflict massive garnishment on any future wages.  Or, he can try to hide the cash, get caught (he's an idiot, he will get caught), go to jail, then lose all his money and have any future income garnished.

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[Max™]

Yeah, you're right, I'm sure his lawy- *pfft* sorry, I'm sure his lawye- *pfffffffftbahahaha*

[MrRoboto75]

Evidently the application process for the student debt relief is live.

I heard some red states were taking the relief bill to court so I figured that would delay it but apparently not?

[Frumple]

I don't think they have any grounds to? Like, I know there's some trying (to fuck over their own citizens if they dare to take the relief, mostly), but they just... don't have standing or whatever to dictate to the federal gov't what it does with federally owned debt. There's no way for them to go to court to get the process paused, or something like that.

[bloop_bleep]

Well, forgiving student debt is allocating federal money in essence, which technically is a power reserved for Congress. I expect that to be the argument.

[None]

The brief blurb I saw was that the challenge is based on damages it may cause to the loan companies that serve student loans. I can't verify this statement, though.

[EuchreJack]

Seems kinda stupid for Republican Politicians to go after the Loan Relief bill. Now, maybe the Governors who have large Loan Providers as major industries in their state, OK. But the rest of them...are you TRYING to mobilize the Democrats against you!?
Mathematically, they're going to mobilize more voters Against them than they mobilize voters For them. It's only worthwhile if they can get bribe money campaign contributions out of it. Some probably can. Many probably can't.

[Vector]

Others are trying to can it based on data that suggest it will decrease the wealth gap between Black and white families.

[McTraveller]

Wait are they openly saying that's why they're opposed to it?  That's... impressive.

[Vector]

Yes, openly. The reasoning is that if it lessens the wealth gap, it gives unmerited handouts on the basis of race, as in Affirmative Action.

[McTraveller]

Well... it is indeed unmerited handouts, but that's some serious mental gymnastics to say that it's on the basis of race instead of just being based on having an outstanding loan.  Any effects correlated with race are due to past (and present) systematic social structures, not directly to the loan program itself.

Not-so-ironically, I think it's due to a failing of the education system in general that permits such a confusion of ideas.

[EuchreJack]

Others are trying to can it based on data that suggest it will decrease the wealth gap between Black and white families.

That is just Fucking Hilarious. Black people are LESS likely to get student loans or admission to college. Systemic bias is systemic.

[Lord Shonus]

Black people are, in fact, less likely to get student loans (not least because of the many scholarship and grant programs intended to address long-standing systemic biases). They are, however, extremely heavily represented in the lower end of people with student loans. I don't have the exact figures on hand right now, but something like 80+% of non-white student loan holders are covered by the forgiveness program, while only around 30% of white male holders are. That's part of why you see so many people screaming about how it isn't enough - well-to-do white male techbros are extremely overplatformed.