Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[Starver]

I'd advice not to take the troll bait. This is a good way to get the thread locked or worse.

Probably a good thing at this point tbh

(All I can think about now is how Trump is threatening to lock the election.)

(Why did I come here instead of checking news?)

[delphonso]

For the fireworks, Starver.

[Maximum Spin]

(Why did I come here instead of checking news?)

Both sound equally emotionally unhealthy!

To everyone, generally: Stop worrying so much. No matter what happens, things will basically be fine.

[Folly]

Things are always fine.

Until they aren't.

[Maximum Spin]

Things are always fine.

Until they aren't.

False.
Things are always fine even if they aren't.

Everything is going to be okay.

[Random_Dragon]

The legal quagmire this is going to turn into is probably going to be the most 2020-ish event of this entire year.

And to the idea that this whole year has ever been fine:

[Rolan7]

(Why did I come here instead of checking news?)

Both sound equally emotionally unhealthy!

To everyone, generally: Stop worrying so much. No matter what happens, things will basically be fine.

In most presidential elections you might be right to suggest that worrying doesn't help (though it's certainly justified).  But in this case apathy is all Trump needs to get away with a desperate coup. 

He's literally already been trying to shut down the vote early.  That's reality, not your fantasy land where the fascist ethno-staters are going to be nice to you because you have money.  I need to follow the news to be aware of where the riots and police actions will be, because if we roll over then American democracy gives up the ghost.

"Just relax and let it happen" is a political statement

[MorleyDev]

So assuming everywhere currently with blue in the lead stays blue, Joe Biden just needs to flip any one of the currently red states? Ignoring Alaska because it's Alaska and deserves to be ignored. It knows what it did. And those states are the ones now counting their postal ballots, that lean heavily pro-Democrat? Well okay then. Explains why the Great Orange In The Sky is having a panic attack.

Something I've been thinking about recently is that in a two-party system, the 'left' side has historically been a coalition between a Socially Conservative Working Class and a Socially Liberal Middle-Class (Better called the University-educated Class now perhaps), united in the support of Economically Interventionalist policies. Lately however the social issues, race, gender, sexuality, have become more important and more incorporated into (Immigration) or prominent enough to override the economical issues for a good chunk of the SCWC. Which is fracturing that coalition, as the social issues are the ones neither side is likely to budge or compromise on very much, and allowing the 'right' side to pick up extra voters.

I mean, I'm not not part of that problem. If you oppose Gay Marriage, Womens Rights, Transgender Rights, are Xenophobic etc you aren't getting my vote because I find opposing those things so abhorrent it overrides any economics. And for people on the other side of the fence, people with my views on them are abhorrent and so the same is true. But it is creating a fine line for the 'left' to walk to avoid losing either side and trying to walk it doesn't seem to be working very well.

[McTraveller]

C'mon folks, please show more decorum here than our "leaders" demonstrate.

I'm actually surprised that the predictions of some of my friends that said "I think Trump will win, because there are a lot of people the media doesn't cover/talk about and who don't respond to polls, that are going to come and vote for him" seem to be astute observations.  This definitely seems to be the case in those swing states.

If you believe in democracy (even the USA odd form of it), though, then, yes, the country has to accept the consequences of its collective action.  For it is a collective thing - CA can't say "it's not my fault" because in some ways it is - the animosity that arises between CA politics and, say, SC, does not arise in a vacuum.

I'm definitely uneasy and sad by the current situation.  I want leaders with decorum and respect, not lead-by-bombast. I mean there was that supposed tweet by the youngest Congressman elected - it was not the type of thing that should characterize any leader. No humility, no respect for his opponent.

The calls to stop counting now, before it's done - that's just inexcusable.  So even though my state may not go the way I voted - I still feel like I did my part, despite the quirks of the electoral system.  Remember this is like sports - you want to be so far ahead that you don't lose due to one bad call or some unlucky bounce.  Sadly this election has never been in that camp - we all know that the choices we had were not great.

So I think the best thing we can do is, regardless of whatever we find out the result to be in a few days or weeks, is simply to respect our neighbors' humanity and try to work together to at least start teaching the next generation to be respectful.  It's not going to happen overnight, and we can't rely on the media or our leadership to do it for us.

[LoSboccacc]

> I'm actually surprised that the predictions of some of my friends

how so? everyone even slightly centrist has been driven away from the communities trough  constant harassment. of course you don't hear their voices. doesn't make it go away tho.

source: been victim of an harassment campaign *on this very forum*

[Maximum Spin]

your fantasy land where the fascist ethno-staters are going to be nice to you because you have money.

If this is what you think I'm saying, you're dumber than you look.

Nobody here is in immediate existential threat from either a Trump or a Biden victory. Having panic attacks over it is neither justified, helpful, nor healthy. I just want people to be, if not happy, at least accepting and not stressed out over this. You, empirically, want people to be sad and angry. Why is that?

[MrRoboto75]

1,100 people died yesterday, and about 230,000 died this year, but alright.

[Lidku]

So Biden is winning? My "New Tab" Explorer Homepage is showing Biden has 238 electoral votes and 50.04% of the popular vote.

[Lord Shonus]

Key states won't be decided until later this week due to the mail in vote. Trump's ahead in some of them, but every model says the mail-ins will trend Biden, ams there are a lot of them.

[Maximum Spin]

1,100 people died yesterday, and about 230,000 died this year, but alright.

That's fine. In 2015, the last time things were supposedly okay, 55 million people died. Human immortality has never quite been figured out yet. 230k is chump change, I would press a button that killed ten times as many in a heartbeat.