Clinton had to deal with that cuntbag Gingrich, while Obama started out trying to recover the fucking disaster he inherited, and two years later had a whole racist moron takeover of the opposition party which the rest of said party worked with in order to cockblock every single thing he tried.
He ain't no saint, but there was some good shit he wanted to get done, and every fucking last bit of it was mangled, mutilated, or outright corrupted before it made it past the party of no.
Acting like Obama and the democrats are responsible for the garbage fires that were burning until Trump took office requires ignoring the republicans running around leaving oily rags and lit matches scattered everywhere during both of his terms.
Are they great? Again, fuck no! They aren't the good guys, but the republicans are undeniably worse.
Remember that whole situation with Poland and France around the middle of last century?
Remember how we worked with the soviets to stop Hitler?
The soviets certainly weren't the good guys, and our white-supremacists-in-denial asses sure the fuck weren't the good guys, but Hitler was definitely worse.
Nominally on our side means "anybody who isn't a moustache twirling charicature of a villain like the republican party" and worrying about whether our allies are woke enough for our tastes only helps the worst guys.
Yeah, Republicans are worse, at least in terms of rhetoric and consistency. Not necessarily in terms of the worst material impacts. All of the pivotal moments in politics that have shaped the world into what we live in today involved Democrat complicity. Like... you keep banging on racism, but you're telling us to vote for someone who was central to the greatest contribution to systemic racism of the last 30 years, and defends his actions to this day. If you're going to keep making the word racism so central to your argument could you at least acknowledge this is something that needs to be reconciled somehow, if not make some effort to do so? And yeah, Obama inherited a disaster, but his first response to it was one of the greatest singular contributions to wealth inequality of our time.
And I hear this argument all the time about how Democrats try to do good things, but are always foiled by Republican's bad faith abuses of procedure. But never do these arguments acknowledge how top Democrat figures consistently contribute to increasing hypercapitalism, forever war for profit, environmental destruction, mass surveillance, state secrecy, and increasingly fascist police. Contribute to if not plainly speak in favor of. All the core features of a dystopia on its way to collapse.
Your premise is that Democrats are in conflict with Republicans. My argument is that in a general sense they're not. They put on a show and play games with each other, but the only stakes they truly compete on are aesthetics, abortion, and sometimes gay rights. As soon as it's almost anything else, the show stops. Democrats are not our Soviet Allies to the Republican Hitler. And if you want me to believe otherwise, you need to stop just repeating yourself and actually tell me why I should believe it in spite of all the evidence otherwise.
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