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[Naturegirl1999]

...also maybe that the people blocking the bill because some poor people might get more money than they were previously scraping by with are just a bunch of ivory tower evil fuckwits.

I think it might mean that.

yes, this too, the rich can’t get rich enough

[Iduno]

...also maybe that the people blocking the bill because some poor people might get more money than they were previously scraping by with are just a bunch of ivory tower evil fuckwits.

I think it might mean that.

I think this might be the one. Same reason McDonalds (among many others) was lobbying to kill the bill. Sure, their employees will die because they have no money, but what if corporations had slightly less? Wouldn't that be worse? Obviously not, but they're inhuman.

Sadly, a lot of voters are doing well enough, and don't have the empathy required to care if their choices kill people.

[Max™]

You can stop the trolley at any time, saving all the people it's going to hit because there is just the one track, but if you do, CEO bonuses won't be as big in the 3rd and 4th quarters.

Won't somebody think of the beneficiaries of stock buybacks in these trying times?

[Dostoevsky]

To appease the R group, Senate is holding a vote on an amendment (that will fail) and then voting on final passage. Votes are going on now, so Senate should wrap up soon.

In the House, however, seeing as at least one person is going to object to this they're going to have to either do proxy voting or bring everyone in. So their vote might get delayed a bit, depending.

Aid bill done probably by the end of the week.

One final telling note of this mini-saga: according to a Post reporter, Heritage praised the fight and argue that the extra unemployment will hurt workers by not having them "attached to their employers." Oi.

[hector13]

I don’t understand the argument that people will be paid more as unemployed than employed here.

There is literally a crisis going on and people are being asked to not put themselves and others at risk by doing unessential things. I have a job because I’m apparently essential (I am far from essential) but there are people who through literally no fault of their own have no income because of Covid-19. Who gives a flying fuck if they earn more being unemployed for the duration of the crisis?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

It's against their religion, capitalism, for wage workers to have fiscal independence.

[Max™]

I mean, capitalist monsters gonna capitalism it up, but fuck 'em, paying workers more to stay home is literally in everyone's best interest because those assholes would try to make people come back out of isolation early rather than miss out on the tiniest possibility of profiting off of their labor, quadruple fuck them, in fact.

[Naturegirl1999]

I mean, capitalist monsters gonna capitalism it up, but fuck 'em, paying workers more to stay home is literally in everyone's best interest because those assholes would try to make people come back out of isolation early rather than miss out on the tiniest possibility of profiting off of their labor, quadruple fuck them, in fact.

agreed, not paying unemployment right now, when people need to stay home, is a very shitty non plan

[SalmonGod]

[wierd]

We get to eat the rich, when?

[nenjin]

I don’t understand the argument that people will be paid more as unemployed than employed here.

There is literally a crisis going on and people are being asked to not put themselves and others at risk by doing unessential things. I have a job because I’m apparently essential (I am far from essential) but there are people who through literally no fault of their own have no income because of Covid-19. Who gives a flying fuck if they earn more being unemployed for the duration of the crisis?

Because once people get a taste of that sweet, sweet socialist welfare cheese they're never going to want to work again. Ever. Not even just to feel good about themselves. They will immediately take that money, bring someone over from Mexico, have an illegal anchor baby then inject it with crack just because they can, because their degeneracy is subsidized by the government, which has now, in the span of this sentence, gone from socialism to full blown communism.

We get to eat the rich, when?

It's called a fall back plan, if the grocery stores are forced to shut down.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

The funny thing is that there's genuinely some truth to that - if Americans en mass get a chance to stop desperately avoid drowning or break their workaholism, at least some people are going to realize how asinine our society's normal behavior is and how much better the alternative is.

Most Republicans and Democrats probably don't see it that way on a conscious level, but a few evil fuckers do for sure, and the rest believe it in an implicit way.

[wierd]

Basically--

"How will we maintain control if we aren't holding people down!?"


I guess when your idea of a good time involves (figurative) suprise buttseks all the time, the idea of not keeping people tied up is just unthinkable.

[thompson]

On the current trajectory COVID-19 deaths increase by a factor of 10 every 7-10 days in the US. If it keeps up at this rate we could be looking at 1 million fatalities by the end of April. I’d expect the measures the states are taking to slow this down somewhat, but containment appears impossible now. This thing could kill more Americans than WW2.

Trump’s political career is dead in the water. All the dems have to do is not completely **** it up and they’ll win by a landslide. I hope this leads to proper reforms for workers rights and the health system. Could be a considerable amount of anger directed China’s way. I’d imagine the Republican Party will try and throw Trump under a bus and reinvent themselves somehow. Not sure how that process will unfold. Wouldn’t be surprised to see the “never Trumpers” re-emerge from the woodwork and turn on him before the election, even. No idea what the “new” Republican Party will look like after that though. Factional war will be bitter.

[delphonso]

My friends on unemployment and food stamps all hated it and were seeking out work the entire time they were on it. Unemployment still comes with the looming threat of being out on the street or getting slightly sick and dying, due to not being able to afford treatment.

Tangentially connected - paying people during the quarantine and getting back to business in a month or two probably would have been beneficial to corporations long term. Everyone here has been chomping at the bit to get back to work. Also helps everyone is stuck inside with their families, though... American mileage may vary.