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I played Far Cry 3 for the first time recently. I wasted so many cars.

[MrRoboto75]

Ok I have vague weird recollections of GTA:VC and launching myself from a junk yard across the underside of the map to get into the mall on a bicycle... I swear it made more sense at the time, and then I remember getting pissed off after failing a GODDAMN FUCKING STUPID ASS MOTHERFUCKING LOWRIDER MINIGAME BULLSHIT ARGH AND SMASHING GTA:SA BECAUSE FUCK THAT SHIT FOREVER... I mean, glitching around, derping through town as swole CJ with a fro and katana before ganking that one badass NRG superbike to go ride straight up the side of a building was fun... but trying to get full completion? Fuck all that noise.

All you had to do was follow the damn train

[Reelya]

Far Cry 2 was kinda like that, except there's no humor.  You're a mercenary in Africa who has to earn the trust of *both* factions in a civil war, by killing people on both sides, so you can eventually kill the protagonist of the first game.  It's absurdly gritty.  Guns break, people try to drag their wounded friends away from you, the only currency is blood diamonds...  The only light comes in the form of your fellow mercenaries, who are your bestest friends and nothing bad happens.
(If it isn't clear, it's one of my favorite games of all time)

I never played Far Cry 1 but I think there were aliens or something.

Coincidentally, I just completed Far Cry 2. Hell of a bleak game.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

However, several problems stem from it being modded from Far Cry 1, which is a totally different game. It's similar to how Bioshock's murder hobo concept seems out of place when translated into an actual working, living city instead of a decaying one.

in FC1 you're on a bunch of islands which are the secret base of a mad scientist, who is creating mutants, and he's hired an army of mercs to guard it, and hunt you down. Naturally, the mutants eventually escape and wreak havoc, so you get plenty of three-way fights with you, the mercs and the mutants. Also, since FC1 is broken into levels, there are a lot of set-piece architectures and interesting level designs to go through. If you like interesting missions and interesting "Boss Fights" then you want FC1 not the later ones.

Here are the main issues with FC2 vs FC1

- by turning it into a GTA/Just-Cause style game, they "same-ified" a lot of the map designs. The architecture is very samey and there aren't interesting levels to play through. Just drive around, fight the same dudes over and over and do the very samey and repetitive missions. The FC2 mission design is really lazy. Also, they added a terrible GTA-style "find the diamonds" thing where there are hundreds of these diamonds in briefcases unrealistically strewn around in out of the way places, and you need diamonds to unlock and upgrade the weapons in the game. It's very grindy compared to FC1, which is a more straightforward shooter focusing on ammo conservation.

- by getting rid of the sci-fi mutants things but leaving the mercs, they heavily reduced the types of things you'll be fighting against. Also, in FC1 the mutants will kill mercs, too, so you get in-fighting between enemy types, which means more tactical opportunities.

- third, there are meant to be factions in FC2, however they don't fight each other, they just use the FC1-style guard AI. There's really only one enemy type in all of FC2. And there are no civilians in FC2 wandering around, unlike e.g. GTA or Just Cause. Only having killer AIs who are single-minded about killing you made sense in the FC1 setting, a mad scientist's secret base, but no sense in the FC2, an open world living nation. You're supposed to have "reputation 0" in FC2 and there should be at least three factions running around: UFLL, APR and civilians. Except there is really only one faction: "kill-the-player robot".

[sluissa]

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/reince-priebus-selected-to-join-navy-president-trump-white-house-chief-of-staff/

Reince Priebus takes to the seas. 

[Rolan7]

Spoiler: Far Cry 2~ (click to show/hide)

Except specifically for the cease-fire town areas, where people do react to you based on your reputation.  Which, unless I'm believing the hype, increases more if you leave incapacitated survivors instead of brutally finishing them off.

Yeah though, it's immerson-breaking that everyone in the wild instantly attacks you, when the premise is that there are two factions and you're usually working for one or the other.  Many missions mention "By the way, our forces won't recognize you so steer clear" but it's true at all times.  I honestly don't know if the two factions even wear different clothes, in the wild.

It could have been a better game, but I still love how... yeah, "bleak", it is.  Also everyone talks so FAST that I initially thought it wasn't properly updated, heh.  I still love it.

The buddy system is a brilliant insight which I REALLY want in more modern games.  In a nutshell, when something stupid happens which leads to your death?  You slowly wake up to one of those fellow mercs dragging you away, firing at actual enemies, then giving you adrenalin and pressing a handgun into your hand to help clear the area.  It gives me feels.

3 and 4 aren't *bad*, but they're very different and more cinematic.  The basic gameplay is... more fun, more cartoonish.  Less... emotional.

[Reelya]

Yeah, the buddies thing was the best thing about it. The only really good thing in my mind.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Things like the guns jamming wasn't good. All that meant is that you learned to make frequent trips via the gun shop, which let you get new versions of any unlocked weapon for free. Also, visiting many locations immediately gave you 100% full ammo in every weapon, so they added in guns that break, but decided infinite ammo was a good thing. So, instead of trying to conserve ammo, you're doing frequent time-wasting trips to the free-ammo places to stay 100% stocked and make sure you have non-breaky guns.

Also, stealth kills almost never worked in that game. I tried several with the machete, but they almost always failed and alerted other guards. Get rid of the free ammo, get rid of the free perfect weapons. Have the weapon breakdown system, but at least indicate the quality of the ones you have. That would make battlefield scavenging more of a part of the game. I scavenged at first, but once I worked out how the gun shops worked with infinite free shit that doesn't break, then I stopped bothering. And make stealth takedowns work better, so you don't need gunplay for every fight.

Especially since the console version didn't have quicksave, so the main result of guns jamming is you dying and losing quite a bit of progress. Also, the fact that you had to fight the exact same fights over and over with no reward, because respawning enemy camps were at checkpoints between places you needed to go. That was just an annoyance that made the game longer.

[scriver]

Gentlemen! No vidyas in the war room!

[Max™]

Ok I have vague weird recollections of GTA:VC and launching myself from a junk yard across the underside of the map to get into the mall on a bicycle... I swear it made more sense at the time, and then I remember getting pissed off after failing a GODDAMN FUCKING STUPID ASS MOTHERFUCKING LOWRIDER MINIGAME BULLSHIT ARGH AND SMASHING GTA:SA BECAUSE FUCK THAT SHIT FOREVER... I mean, glitching around, derping through town as swole CJ with a fro and katana before ganking that one badass NRG superbike to go ride straight up the side of a building was fun... but trying to get full completion? Fuck all that noise.

All you had to do was follow the damn train

IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER IF YOUR FAT ASS SPENT A LITTLE LESS TIME MISSING GANGBANGERS AND A LITLE MORE TIME EATING SOME FUCKING SALADS AND DOING A FEW PUSHUPS, FUCK!

[Starver]

Spoiler: GTA:SA (click to show/hide)

All you had to do was follow the damn train

Never did that. I just (hijacked and) drove the train through its pre-Stage-Unlock barriers by backing up far enough to get momentum without also derailing on the way round the curves immediately before.

Or got a Flying Dodo (easy enough to get into the airport early, by getting a car to stand atop, close enough to a bus you can then climb onto, then up and over that handy stretch of high wall, and down onto the parking apron) and fly wherever you wanted. (The Dodo was easier to use to avoid the air-to-air missiles of the patrolling jumpjet, due to its flight characteristics. Wait for them to be fired, then dive and jink straight back up after they'd passed. Much harder if you cheat-coded a JUMPJET of your own, actually.)

You still got plenty of terrestrial police attention so long as you weren't in the air (maybe even then), and the tactical 'copters, but the train was indestructible except if you derailed it while messing about trying to get round rail curves too fast, but it passed time when you felt like breaking out of the' current' sandbox from an early game position.

Though I first got to Completion without doing to much of that stuff (maybe visiting a FOBT immediately after a save-point, betting on the longest odds and 'not minding too much' if I lost the stake and then failed a mission so to reload, but going back to a save-house straight away if I struck lucky - rinse and repeat) and that included all the side-missions/girlfriends, etc.

GTA:SA was the last of the GTAs I bought and played, for various reasons. I got my money's worth out of it, though. (The other day I actually found the packaging for this, but with only the Install disc in. I need to check which old hardware's drive still has the Play disc in kts platter, obviously.)

[misko27]

On a more local level: The GOP is in free-fall in Pennsylvania. Electoral losses that were double-digit in some races have led to a bitter fight within the state's party leadership. The whole affair has caught the attention of the President's team, as Pennsylvania was crucial to his victory in 2016 and will be a key in his success or failure in 2020.

There's also a war between the DNC chief Perez and state parties, over the use of data.

[smjjames]

The Republican party should ideally be in free-fall everywhere (they're almost non-existent as a party here in California) since they're acting like a political party in a weak democracy sliding towards authoritarianism.

Theres always been tension between the DNC/RNC and the state parties though.

Also, why haven't we metaphorically punched the Russian government in the face yet? Yes, that's a rhetorical question, but still....

[Kagus]

Mah pappy always said that th' wars of the future wouldn't be fought with guns, they'd be fought with infermation...

[smjjames]

I did say metaphorically....

[Teneb]

I did say metaphorically....

Just reach through your screen and punch them through the internet.

[MrRoboto75]

Mah pappy always said that th' wars of the future wouldn't be fought with guns, they'd be fought with infermation...

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