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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #25230 on: November 06, 2018, 01:32:29 pm »

Well, really the best thing to do (even if it disgusts you) is to vote not-republican. Which, sadly with the FPTP system, means voting democrat.

Trust me, I wish it weren't this way either. But they've shown time and again that they're putting party and power over nation.

I've personally considered dipping my toes into running local, but I'm not even 30 yet. Born and raised in a (nationally) blue island of Idaho but local government is fairly typically conservative. Not Republican, mind you, but just conservative even on the blue tickets.

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« Reply #25231 on: November 06, 2018, 01:36:11 pm »

I did not care for my district candidates. I looked into other candidates for other districts and they were all way better. Hmph.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #25232 on: November 06, 2018, 01:38:49 pm »

I did the voting thing.  It was every bit as depressing as I expected.  There were several local positions with republicans running unopposed, half of them judges.  And only the two federal positions gave the option for write-in.
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« Reply #25233 on: November 06, 2018, 02:40:57 pm »

Voted a bit ago, having lunch atm.  My polling place was about as busy as it gets, no line though.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #25234 on: November 06, 2018, 02:56:31 pm »

Ok, I never did get back to finishing those Senate race profiles, but I do want to point out one race real quick which isn't even a close one but probably flew under most people's radar: Utah.

Incumbent Senator Orrin Hatch (R) -- first elected before the vast majority of you were born -- is finally, mercifully, retiring.
Utah being what it is (i.e. a giant Mormon magic underwear colony with a handful of non-believers that live in Salt Lake City), it's pretty much a given that the next Senator will be whoever won the Republican primary. And just who did win that primary, you ask?
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Now, there are entirely too many House races to discuss in any level of detail, not to mention at least half to two-thirds of them are utterly meaningless because they were over as soon as the primaries were. In my own district, the incumbent Democrat, David Price, typically wins by 30 points or more (and in some cases, 50 points) and this election is unlikely to be different, because the Republicans ran a schlub against him and provided little to no funding. Plus, the district is pretty heavily gerrymandered (seventh-worst in the nation, according to WaPo!).

That there are 60+ competitive House races this year is a pretty big surprise. I'll cover a few of the more interesting ones very briefly:

IA-04: Incumbent Steve King (R) has held sway over this chunk of NW Iowa for eight terms. He's been a racist jackass pretty much that whole time, but unlike some other equally racist jackass colleagues of his (Peter King in NY comes to mind), King's particular brand of racism has come under scrutiny lately because it's not just casual jokes in poor taste or comments about "you people", it's pretty much some straight-up white nationalism and sympathy for white nationalists. He's retweeted Nazi sympathizers on two separate occasions, supported a neo-Nazi candidate in Toronto, and met with the far-right Freedom Party in Austria. That's come back to put him on the defensive in the last few weeks, and his poll numbers have suffered, turning this from a safe seat to a "lean". Given that the district went for Trump by 27 points in 2016, King is unlikely to get ousted, but the fact that the race is down inside MoE in recent polls is staggering. If he actually loses, consider it a huge win for civil society and a sign of a genuine blue wave.

KS-03: This tiny, urban district is basically Kansas City and some suburbs, where four-term incumbent Kevin Yoder (R) is trailing Sharice Davids (D). Davids is something of a diversity bonanza: a lesbian Native American attorney and former MMA fighter. Yoder hasn't done anything in particular to screw up, but he's a typical Midwestern Republican -- pro-life, pro-gun, anti-LGBTQ, anti-Obamacare, etc. Which makes him a poor fit for an increasingly urban, young, liberal electorate in Kansas City. If the polls hold up and Davids is elected, she would be the first Native American woman elected to Congress (and/or may likely share that honor with NM-1's Deb Haaland, a Pueblo) and only the second openly lesbian member of Congress, after Wisconsin Senator Tammy Baldwin.

MI-13: This one isn't even a race, as Democrat Rashida Tlaib is running unopposed (though theoretically a massive write-in campaign could challenge her), but the district -- which includes portions of Detroit and surrounding suburbs -- went for Clinton by 32 points two years ago, so it's highly unlikely. Tlaib, the daughter of Palestinian immigrants, would be the first Muslim woman in Congress (again, possibly sharing that honor with Somali-American Ilhan Omar from Minnesota's 5th district -- the same district that elected Keith Ellison, the first Muslim member of Congress, in 2007).

TX-23: This large district covers about 2/3 of Texas's Mexican border, and is 68% Hispanic. Which makes it a little weird that their incumbent is a black guy named Will Hurd (R). To be fair, Hurd has not been a typical Republican, opposing a lot of Trump's immigration and border policies. But while Hurd has won two terms in the district, it's always been by razor-thin margins. Even a modest surge in Democratic voters could put his opponent Gina Ortiz Jones in office. Personally, I hope that if Hurd loses, he goes on to run for other offices in Texas -- he seems like the kind of Republican that's needed to fix the party.

NY-14: This will likely be the victory lap for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who shocked the Democratic establishment by winning the primary as an unabashed Democratic Socialist, and put the fear of God, socialism, and young brown women into conservatives everywhere back in the spring.

NY-27: Incumbent Chris Collins suspended his campaign in August after being arrested by the FBI and indicted on insider trading charges. However, he did so too late to get his name off the ballot and allow the GOP to run another candidate, and then changed gears in September and said he was innocent and staying on the ballot. The sad part? It's still considered a "lean Republican" district, leading to the possibility of a special election if/when Collins goes to trial and is found guilty.

CA-50: In the same vein of "Who Wants To Elect A Criminal?", indicted Congressman Duncan Hunter, charged with gross misuse of campaign and taxpayer dollars by him and his wife, is still running for re-election and still favored to win, because Orange County Republicans are the most Republic-y Republicans to ever Republic a Republic.

   
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #25235 on: November 06, 2018, 03:35:00 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOvHDoXyiLs

To summarize, Trump said: 'I'm not allowed to call my daughter beautiful anymore, and that's exactly the same as all you men in the audience not being allowed to call your wives and girlfriends beautiful.'

Way to play to your base, Trump.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #25236 on: November 06, 2018, 03:53:26 pm »

I appreciate the writeups as always, RedKing and also everyone else.

...They make me seem smart and knowledgeable amongst my friends ;)
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #25237 on: November 06, 2018, 04:02:10 pm »

I still like the Norwegian black metal guy who let the local election put his name on their candidate list and then accidentally wound up getting elected to the town council. And was like "Fuck, I don't want to have to politician now!"

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There's also a small town in Minnesota that had a dog as mayor. He was re-elected three times, before retiring this year.



These are the elected officials we need more of: Awkward. Somewhat unwilling. Definitely not in it for the money and fame. Sometimes floofy.
Probably not a good example if you want to bring up money in politics.  Cormorant Township has a population of just over 1000 and is governed by a township board.  The mayorship is an amusing fundraising campaign for the local festival: one dollar to vote.

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Also, an interesting detail I noticed on my ballot today and followed up on when I got home. Three of the largest local independent parties (Independence, Green, and Libertarian) are trying to recapture state funds this ballot by refusing to compete against each other.  The Greens are aiming for the Senate, Libertarians for the Governorship, and Independence for Secretary of State.  They're hoping that they can take advantage of non-competition to each hit the 5% threshold in one race to gain state funding in 2020.  Story.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #25238 on: November 06, 2018, 04:05:23 pm »


TX-23: This large district covers about 2/3 of Texas's Mexican border, and is 68% Hispanic. Which makes it a little weird that their incumbent is a black guy named Will Hurd (R). To be fair, Hurd has not been a typical Republican, opposing a lot of Trump's immigration and border policies. But while Hurd has won two terms in the district, it's always been by razor-thin margins. Even a modest surge in Democratic voters could put his opponent Gina Ortiz Jones in office. Personally, I hope that if Hurd loses, he goes on to run for other offices in Texas -- he seems like the kind of Republican that's needed to fix the party.


You have to respect somebody who has taken the public position "you shouldn't get rid of my district - I can lose in it, and that is good for the country".
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #25239 on: November 06, 2018, 04:37:10 pm »

Anybody got a link/invite to the B12 Discord, if we're gonna do this there?

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Hosting this off my own laptop, so might get sluggish if a lot of people join.
Feel free to join early, banter, and pick up a Midterm Bingo sheet (attached in the General Channel).

I will likely be away fixing dinner, so if you don't get a response, that's why. We'll get going in earnest around 6:30-7:00pm EST. If you want to play the Fantasy Midterm Bingo thing, I need your sheet by 6:00pm EST, since that's when Indiana polls close.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #25240 on: November 06, 2018, 04:58:18 pm »

I voted.

Sleazy tactics out there, though.  The voting place here is a church, there's only a thin little one way road leading in and a one way road leading out.  A tent is set up near the entrance so that it looks like you have to talk to the tent guy to learn where to park.  No sign on the front of it but when you pull up you can see it is plastered in Ron DerSantis signs and the guy practically throws a DeSantis flier into your window when you stop like everyone else ahead of you did thinking you need to be told where to park.  Absolute sleaze, even if I wasn't already voting against the guy that sure as hell would have turned me off from him.

Oh and reporting reasonable turnout over here in a redacted Daytona beach, Florida suburb town.  Not as busy as the presidential election, but far busier than it was last midterm.
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« Reply #25241 on: November 06, 2018, 05:01:38 pm »

My polling place seemed unusually busy for the time of day. There wasn't much of a line, but we usually time our vote to hit between the big rushes (this is a blue-collar part of town, so the big voting times are 1100-1300, 1530-1600, and 1730-1930 - lunchtime and the common ends of shift) and the place is usually empty when we go.
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« Reply #25242 on: November 06, 2018, 05:11:58 pm »

Edit: Missed Redking's edit with the Discord data
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« Reply #25243 on: November 06, 2018, 05:27:15 pm »

Anybody got a link/invite to the B12 Discord, if we're gonna do this there?

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Ok, screw it -- I'll host it.
https://discord.gg/3MzxkK

Hosting this off my own laptop, so might get sluggish if a lot of people join.
Feel free to join early, banter, and pick up a Midterm Bingo sheet (attached in the General Channel).

I will likely be away fixing dinner, so if you don't get a response, that's why. We'll get going in earnest around 6:30-7:00pm EST. If you want to play the Fantasy Midterm Bingo thing, I need your sheet by 6:00pm EST, since that's when Indiana polls close.


First time actually using discord, heh. I don't use it because I'm hard of hearing and the voice mode would just suck for me.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #25244 on: November 06, 2018, 05:42:20 pm »

Anybody got a link/invite to the B12 Discord, if we're gonna do this there?

EDIT:
Ok, screw it -- I'll host it.
https://discord.gg/3MzxkK

Hosting this off my own laptop, so might get sluggish if a lot of people join.
Feel free to join early, banter, and pick up a Midterm Bingo sheet (attached in the General Channel).

I will likely be away fixing dinner, so if you don't get a response, that's why. We'll get going in earnest around 6:30-7:00pm EST. If you want to play the Fantasy Midterm Bingo thing, I need your sheet by 6:00pm EST, since that's when Indiana polls close.


First time actually using discord, heh. I don't use it because I'm hard of hearing and the voice mode would just suck for me.
I'm not planning on using voice much if at all. Same reason (although I have nice high-end headphones).
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