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[Trekkin]

Also, was Japan communist? ‘cause I don’t think they were Communist. Then again I haven’t read/watched whatever that came from, so I guess y’all are more interested in discussing irony instead of politics in the politics thread.

How else do we get to be pointlessly, axiomatically right about things?

Think of the egos, man!

[Reelya]

And where would we be without repeatedly jumping in to pontificate about how everyone else's discussion is beneath us?

[Frumple]

Hip deep in blackjack and hookers, presumably.

[WealthyRadish]

I think he was being ironic.

[Max™]

Proper irony is just sarcasm

Exactly, if you can't replace "ironically" with "sarcastically" then you're literally as awful as someone who uses literally while doing that vocal fry shit. Socratic irony is acceptable when you have a suitable audience based scenario, but situational irony is just a way of saying "that's so weird and/or quirky, mirite" by polluting the use until you get shit like hipsters claiming they're wearing ironic clothing... how the fuck is a goddamn shirt ironic? What is the literal intention of a shirt?

[EnigmaticHat]

Also this is your timely reminder that kings have been democratically elected for longer than they have been inherited. Nothing prevents monarchies from being democratic! Well, except the outvoted monarch, possibly...

Which monarchs are you refering to here?

[Reelya]

Shirts are ironic when the meaning of the shirt is opposite of what is stated. That means you wear a shirt of something you don't like, or you're making the opposite social statement to what the item presents. Like wearing a MAGA hat to a meetup when everyone knows you hate trump. Wearing the hat is sarcastic, therefore it fits the bill perfectly for the irony = sarcasm definition.

A word or phrase by itself isn't "ironic" or "sarcastic": it's the context. Irony and sarcasm aren't inherent in the thing itself.

Similarly a shirt, by itself, isn't what's ironic, but the choice to wear it, social context and who you are all convey different messages. It's within that informational context where irony comes into play.

[hector13]

Somebody (I think Starver) made a fantastic post a while back with words of which the meaning has changed over time and I am sad I cannot find it.

PPE: I never really see the point of wearing something ironically. Buying something to be ironic is he same as buying something you wear unironically.

[Trekkin]

Somebody (I think Starver) made a fantastic post a while back with words of which the meaning has changed over time and I am sad I cannot find it.

PPE: I never really see the point of wearing something ironically. Buying something to be ironic is he same as buying something you wear unironically.

This one?

No, you do not get to redefine words to suit your whims.

An awareness of linguistic drift would suggest that not only do they get to do exactly that, they have a gay old time doing so, if not incontinently. It's a continuous process: some hep cat comes up with a neologism, the villains start repeating it, and off we go; what may start as a spur-of-the-moment construction or even an unintentional boner can end up becoming vulgarly accepted, and suddenly everyone insisting on the old way comes off as a right boob.

But hey, by all means, stand at the seashore and order back the tide.

You literally started that off the best way possible. Like, literally and literally.

* hector13 gets his coat

I am sad I was late to the bandwagon.

Also, toilets. Everybody does (literal) shit they don’t want other people to see or hear in there, what does it matter what you have between your legs when you’re doing it? Fuck feminism, man; evacuation equality is what we need. The term might need work, but whatever.

[hector13]

That one.

You will henceforth be known as Starver. I mean we’re all Pathos anyway, so we’re all Starver and Trekkin and hector13 and so on.

[misko27]

But perhaps Starver is simply an aspect of Pathos; it would stand to reason that, while we are all Pathos, we aren't all the same part of Pathos.

Also I would absolutely order back the tide if it would ever listen. Tragically this is as of yet a flaw in our oceans, but perhaps with time and science this may be corrected for future generations.

[Frumple]

Pretty (not) sure all you'd have to do is blow up the moon. Once the deorbiting death hail finishes landing, survivors won't have to deal with the tide anymore! Plus we'd have like all the moon rocks and that'd be great, right? Somewhat burnt, but hey.

[MrRoboto75]

Also I would absolutely order back the tide if it would ever listen. Tragically this is as of yet a flaw in our oceans, but perhaps with time and science this may be corrected for future generations.

We would solve the problem today if the solution was somehow profitable within the next quarter.

[smjjames]

Also this is your timely reminder that kings have been democratically elected for longer than they have been inherited. Nothing prevents monarchies from being democratic! Well, except the outvoted monarch, possibly...

Which monarchs are you refering to here?

I'm curious on this too.

[hector13]

Probably oner them Scandinavian monarchs. Totes don’t count.