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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #22290 on: August 06, 2018, 04:40:04 pm »

"Rumors of my death are hugely over reported. Sad!"

He'd probably say how the attendance was low, yet in reality more people showed up for that than his inauguration.
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« Reply #22291 on: August 06, 2018, 05:11:10 pm »

"Rumors of my death are hugely over reported. Sad!"
"The name's Trump.  Donald Trump.  I've got the biggest name, the best name.  Its yuge, like my inauguration crowds and my hands."
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #22292 on: August 06, 2018, 05:50:50 pm »

So, Manafort's getting thrown under the bus, and it's a big bus.

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« Reply #22293 on: August 06, 2018, 06:00:24 pm »

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Mr. Gates admitted to a wide variety of crimes, including bank fraud, tax fraud, money laundering, lying to federal authorities, lying in a court deposition and stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars from Mr. Manafort’s accounts by falsely claiming expenses
Lol at that last bit.  Hell of a way to find out.
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« Reply #22294 on: August 06, 2018, 06:43:38 pm »

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Mr. Gates admitted to a wide variety of crimes, including bank fraud, tax fraud, money laundering, lying to federal authorities, lying in a court deposition and stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars from Mr. Manafort’s accounts by falsely claiming expenses
Lol at that last bit.  Hell of a way to find out.

No honor among thieves, and all that.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #22295 on: August 06, 2018, 06:46:43 pm »

"Rick Gates Testifies He Committed Crimes With Paul Manafort" sounds like he's revealing that they broke into the sheriff's lot and stole two cruisers, then trashed them in an underground destruction derby and spent the winnings on meth, guns, and women.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #22296 on: August 06, 2018, 06:49:06 pm »

How rich do you have to be to lose hundreds of thousands of dollars and not notice?
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #22297 on: August 06, 2018, 06:50:02 pm »

How rich do you have to be to lose hundreds of thousands of dollars and not notice?

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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #22298 on: August 06, 2018, 06:50:59 pm »

Or, conversely, -5 poor
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« Reply #22299 on: August 06, 2018, 07:39:22 pm »

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Mr. Gates admitted to a wide variety of crimes, including bank fraud, tax fraud, money laundering, lying to federal authorities, lying in a court deposition and stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars from Mr. Manafort’s accounts by falsely claiming expenses
Lol at that last bit.  Hell of a way to find out.

No honor among thieves, and all that.

That's basically what I thought, 'thieves gonna be thieves'.

How rich do you have to be to lose hundreds of thousands of dollars and not notice?

Rich enough that hundreds of thousands of dollars constitutes a rounding error?

Really though, Manafort was doing plenty of side dealing with not reporting stuff (the guilty sign is flashing bright neon by now, I'd be surprised if they didn't find him guilty of some of the charges) among other shady dealings, harder to keep track of things if you aren't reporting them correctly or simply aren't keeping track of them. Wouldn't be surprised if Gates siphoned them off in a similar manner.

I'm not sure whether he meant hundreds of thousands of dollars at a time or siphoned it off in smaller amounts which amounted to hundreds of thousands of dollars. Doesn't matter anyway since it amounts to thieves stealing from thieves.
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« Reply #22300 on: August 06, 2018, 08:10:18 pm »

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I'm not sure whether he meant hundreds of thousands of dollars at a time or siphoned it off in smaller amounts which amounted to hundreds of thousands of dollars. Doesn't matter anyway since it amounts to thieves stealing from thieves.

My assumption would be the latter, but yes: financial chicanery makes theft (from the perpetrator) both harder to detect amidst the groundscatter of convoluted transfers and more difficult to stop without alerting the authorities to your own wrongdoing. This is not Gates tiptoeing away from Manafort's house in a striped shirt and domino mask with a very heavy bag marked "Swag"; this is probably a case of a lot of already-imaginary fees being trivially enlarged and the difference routed (eventually) to Gates, probably with Manafort's tacit acceptance.
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« Reply #22301 on: August 06, 2018, 08:48:43 pm »

Well yeah, nobodys saying that Gates ran off with material property. He did it the same way Manafort did it, by fudging the numbers around in a way that wouldn't catch his partners attention.
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« Reply #22302 on: August 06, 2018, 08:51:07 pm »

Well yeah, nobodys saying that Gates ran off with material property. He did it the same way Manafort did it, by fudging the numbers around in a way that wouldn't catch his partners attention.

My point was more that such fudging is endemic and nearly expected, and need not imply extreme wealth.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #22303 on: August 06, 2018, 11:57:13 pm »

Where is MSH when we need him (unless I've gone senile and it was someone else doing those all along).

In any case, I think the focus has moved from the threat of the big powers to the magical capabilities of minor states, rogue states, and the supernatural international terrorist organizations (SITO for short). While any magic that could be deployed by these groups would likely be limited in scope and unlikely to touch off a full-on magical exchange or occult war, the devestation would be far disproportionate to the numbers involved. And it is difficult to ensure that every single magic is tracked: all you need is one Russian warlock with gambling debts to go missing and you have a crisis on your hands.

Any news on the disnecromantization of the Korean peninsula, incidentally?
Screw the minor states, what about the mirror states, you lot are seriously worried about threats from this volume of the branemesh?

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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #22304 on: August 07, 2018, 10:51:16 am »

When the apocalypse comes, I will be sitting in a bunker underground, and in my final hours, I will be transmitting over-the-radio analysis of the geopolitical implications of the different gods currently rampaging across Earth's surface.

Anyway, Gates is back on the stand today, so that'll be interesting.

In other news, it's election time. The main election grabbing attention is the last special election before the midterms. Seen as a barometer of democratic enthusiasm 3 months before national elections, he full might of the Republican Party has been brought to bear to avoid losing in Ohio today (even Trump and Pence have made a few visits). We're also watching some primaries, gubernatorial elections, and other interesting things. We'll bring you more on this story as it develops. This is Bay12 News, signing off.
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