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[Dunamisdeos]

I have absolutely had to correct my fellow religionites about why bad things happening to us is not always religious discrimination, and I assume that happens in other religions too.

Also anecdotal.

[EnigmaticHat]

I don't have much more than anecdotes to go on myself.  Its just the impression I had.

[redwallzyl]

I write and long spiel and its the last post. damn it.

[Dunamisdeos]

I write and long spiel and its the last post. damn it.

Sorry, I read it! 

Just to prove it, I agree with a lot of the things you say about how to lead through ideology, but I think that any attempt to run against Trump from any angle should focus more on (I suppose not exclusively) distinct goals than symbology and ideas. I think that by then there will likely be a backlash against running on an ideological platform because of the last election and Trump's demagoguery.

I think the next election will be decided by the person with the most clear-cut plan of action. I don't think there will be a clean lean towards any party if things stay the way they are now. I see so many people switching political views both ways it's insane.

[wierd]

Sorry to interject... but I have a new reason to desire the fall of human civilization, that totally is appropriate for this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9qv8RSreIM

As far as I can tell, it is a real product.

I saw a real television commercial for it, and my first reaction was "This HAS to be a This Week Tonight with John Oliver" comedy spoof... but no. No. It wasn't.


The disgusting devotion to mammon...  I .. I...  Yes. The world just needs to die now.

[bloop_bleep]

Last Week Tonight.

And John Oliver doesn't usually run segments on things so specific or unimportant. There are hundreds of Trump-themed merchandise out there.

But there's a new episode tomorrow, so I guess we'll see.

[Reelya]

Sorry to interject... but I have a new reason to desire the fall of human civilization, that totally is appropriate for this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9qv8RSreIM

As far as I can tell, it is a real product.

I saw a real television commercial for it, and my first reaction was "This HAS to be a This Week Tonight with John Oliver" comedy spoof... but no. No. It wasn't.


The disgusting devotion to mammon...  I .. I...  Yes. The world just needs to die now.

I know what you're saying, that does have the whole feel of John Oliver's end segments.

[Loud Whispers]

Sorry to interject... but I have a new reason to desire the fall of human civilization, that totally is appropriate for this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9qv8RSreIM

As far as I can tell, it is a real product.

I saw a real television commercial for it, and my first reaction was "This HAS to be a This Week Tonight with John Oliver" comedy spoof... but no. No. It wasn't.


The disgusting devotion to mammon...  I .. I...  Yes. The world just needs to die now.

Your guys invented smart salt shakers and juicers are you really surprised?

[Reelya]

The smart salt shaker (kickstarter) looks really dumb.

Was the Juicero the smart juicer you were talking about? Goddamn idiotic idea and a rip-off business model.

https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/14/15973400/juicero-layoffs-lower-prices-planned

“The current prices of $399 for the Press and $5 - $7 for produce Packs are not a realistic way for us to fulfill our mission at the scale to which we aspire,” he reportedly wrote.

To give you an idea of the costs here, if $400 for a juicer wasn't enough

https://help.juicero.com/hc/en-us/articles/228551787-Can-I-fill-Packs-with-my-own-produce-to-use-with-the-Juicero-Press-

"Can I fill Packs with my own produce" => Short answer: no.

https://help.juicero.com/hc/en-us/articles/228600548-How-much-juice-does-each-Pack-yield-

Most Juicero Packs contain enough fresh produce to yield one glass of juice

https://help.juicero.com/hc/en-us/articles/228600168-How-does-the-Pack-subscription-work-

Packs will be delivered automatically on a weekly basis ... Packs are sold in bundles or multiples of five packs (1 Bundle = 5 Packs).

https://help.juicero.com/hc/en-us/articles/228551187-Can-I-purchase-Packs-without-a-subscription-

At this time, Packs cannot be purchased without a subscription.

Let's get this straight, you pay $399 for the smart juicer, and it can only be used with special packs that costs about $6 per glass of juice, and you can only get the juice packs if you subscribe to a weekly payment of about $30. And the fruit in the bags isn't even fucking fresh.

https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2017/04/juicero-ceo-begs-you-do-not-open-our-juice-bags/
And whatever you do, don't open the packs to remove the fruit pulp. That's a consumer hack.

[Loud Whispers]

Yes, and they cause me great pain

[Reelya]

Hey man, what's wrong with a juicer that costs you almost $2000 to own in the first year? You're getting 260 cups of juice for that money. Everyone should have one.

[hector13]

Market it as a luxury item and he could make even more money touting it to people with more money than sense.

[EnigmaticHat]

I kind of love their CEO tho.

*joins company*

"...what the fuck guys?  How are we still in business?  Why is anyone buying this?"

[Reelya]

I forgot to mention that the juicero only juices when connected to the internet. So it's got always-on DRM, which means each juice pack has a serial number that phones home when you juice it, to make sure you're not cheating and refilling the packs or making your own.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Christ, it's a cracker's dream project.