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Re: AmeriPol: Debt ceiling and Gov. Funding punted to mid-December!
« Reply #12315 on: September 09, 2017, 04:59:57 pm »

In quantity, probably. Plenty of other stuff's had more time to do its thing. Otherwise there ain't all that much difference.
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Re: AmeriPol: Debt ceiling and Gov. Funding punted to mid-December!
« Reply #12316 on: September 09, 2017, 05:33:23 pm »

Just to be clear, people are starting to deliberately equate the common disdain for SJW to the chronic historical hate felt towards the entire Jewish ethnicity? Like, on purpose?
In a plot twist nobody saw coming, it turns out the internet nazis who popularized the term 'SJW' are antisemitic and are perfectly happy with using their epithets for that purpose.
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Re: AmeriPol: Debt ceiling and Gov. Funding punted to mid-December!
« Reply #12317 on: September 09, 2017, 05:33:50 pm »

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Re: AmeriPol: Debt ceiling and Gov. Funding punted to mid-December!
« Reply #12318 on: September 09, 2017, 06:08:44 pm »

I first heard "sjew" used BY a self-proclaimed sjw as a deliberate tactic to point at how "the SJWs" are often blamed immediately for things they may have little to no relation to or impact on, and how often they're treated as some conspiratorial force trying to destroy (Western) culture. Among other flavours of blame, like SJW is often used as a pejorative or epithet, similar to how some spit "He's a Jew," or how they're actually often conflated, like that all SJWs are controlled by Jews.
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Re: AmeriPol: Debt ceiling and Gov. Funding punted to mid-December!
« Reply #12319 on: September 09, 2017, 06:33:57 pm »

It's amazing how adding one letter to an acronym can trigger so much. Regardless of its origin that its intent. 
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Re: AmeriPol: Debt ceiling and Gov. Funding punted to mid-December!
« Reply #12320 on: September 09, 2017, 06:51:22 pm »

But it doesn't fit at all. The dislike of sjw doesn't even compare to the dislike of, say, socialists in the US.
Plus, sjws via shit like identity politics are actually a terrible cancerous tumor on the democratic party, killing it better than anything republicans could ever hope for, unlike input from say, socialists and jews, or jewish socialists.
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« Reply #12321 on: September 09, 2017, 06:54:27 pm »

What about all those jewish socialist social justice warriors tho
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Re: AmeriPol: Debt ceiling and Gov. Funding punted to mid-December!
« Reply #12322 on: September 09, 2017, 07:03:55 pm »

I first heard "sjew" used BY a self-proclaimed sjw as a deliberate tactic to point at how "the SJWs" are often blamed immediately for things they may have little to no relation to or impact on, and how often they're treated as some conspiratorial force trying to destroy (Western) culture. Among other flavours of blame, like SJW is often used as a pejorative or epithet, similar to how some spit "He's a Jew," or how they're actually often conflated, like that all SJWs are controlled by Jews.

I infer from your arguments that there must have been a systematic mass killing of over 6 million SJWs sometime in the past. When did that happen? I'm curious.
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Re: AmeriPol: Debt ceiling and Gov. Funding punted to mid-December!
« Reply #12323 on: September 09, 2017, 07:10:56 pm »

I mean granted, that's not exactly a new line of thought if you've ever heard of the "Judeo-Bolshevik conspiracy," but that's still weird.
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Re: AmeriPol: Debt ceiling and Gov. Funding punted to mid-December!
« Reply #12324 on: September 09, 2017, 07:21:05 pm »

I first heard "sjew" used BY a self-proclaimed sjw as a deliberate tactic to point at how "the SJWs" are often blamed immediately for things they may have little to no relation to or impact on, and how often they're treated as some conspiratorial force trying to destroy (Western) culture. Among other flavours of blame, like SJW is often used as a pejorative or epithet, similar to how some spit "He's a Jew," or how they're actually often conflated, like that all SJWs are controlled by Jews.

I infer from your arguments that there must have been a systematic mass killing of over 6 million SJWs sometime in the past. When did that happen? I'm curious.
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Wow way to jump straight to the passive aggressiveness over someone explaining where they first heard it. Also it is actually possible to bring up the historical and contemporary scapegoating and stereotyping of Jews as  a comparison without mentioning the holocaust FYI
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Re: AmeriPol: Debt ceiling and Gov. Funding punted to mid-December!
« Reply #12325 on: September 09, 2017, 07:39:15 pm »

What about all those jewish socialist social justice warriors tho

I prefer the social warrior jew justice socialists
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Re: AmeriPol: Debt ceiling and Gov. Funding punted to mid-December!
« Reply #12326 on: September 09, 2017, 08:04:12 pm »

But it doesn't fit at all. The dislike of sjw doesn't even compare to the dislike of, say, socialists in the US.
Plus, sjws via shit like identity politics are actually a terrible cancerous tumor on the democratic party, killing it better than anything republicans could ever hope for, unlike input from say, socialists and jews, or jewish socialists.

Eh.  Repub and Demo party are both on decline from a lot of things.  Its a race to the bottom.
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Re: AmeriPol: Debt ceiling and Gov. Funding punted to mid-December!
« Reply #12327 on: September 09, 2017, 08:06:42 pm »

I first heard "sjew" used BY a self-proclaimed sjw as a deliberate tactic to point at how "the SJWs" are often blamed immediately for things they may have little to no relation to or impact on, and how often they're treated as some conspiratorial force trying to destroy (Western) culture. Among other flavours of blame, like SJW is often used as a pejorative or epithet, similar to how some spit "He's a Jew," or how they're actually often conflated, like that all SJWs are controlled by Jews.
Kinda like all the "feminism is what's wrong with America" stuff.  Like I wish feminists had that much power.

Honestly tho, it can't be 100% the same because being ethically Jewish isn't a choice and SJW, well I think it originated as an insult but if it were a real movement participating would be a choice.  But I'd say its pretty similar.  If someone uses a noun as an insult, that's a red flag that they hate whatever it is blindly.  Like the word "cuck".  The target of the hatred isn't the same thing as what the word means, but it is a blind hatred nonetheless. If someone on the internet uses cuck unironically you should back away slowly.
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Re: AmeriPol: Debt ceiling and Gov. Funding punted to mid-December!
« Reply #12328 on: September 09, 2017, 08:42:20 pm »

Wow way to jump straight to the passive aggressiveness over someone explaining where they first heard it.
Descan used it himself, without accompanying explanation, before he said where he learned it and what it meant. And it would be very odd indeed to use a word, and then when asked about that word, to explain its meaning in a different context than what you used.
Also it is actually possible to bring up the historical and contemporary scapegoating and stereotyping of Jews as  a comparison without mentioning the holocaust FYI
Of course it is possible, but is this particular application of it a good one? I mean if one is going to use it, it's not really enough to argue that it's possible to make such a comparison in theory, one has got to take the responsibility of actually saying that "this is a good comparison that I want to be making."

I first heard "sjew" used BY a self-proclaimed sjw as a deliberate tactic to point at how "the SJWs" are often blamed immediately for things they may have little to no relation to or impact on, and how often they're treated as some conspiratorial force trying to destroy (Western) culture. Among other flavours of blame, like SJW is often used as a pejorative or epithet, similar to how some spit "He's a Jew," or how they're actually often conflated, like that all SJWs are controlled by Jews.
There are other things that fit that description though: Lizard people, the NWO, FEMA, the UN. If the goal was to mock it as ridiculous, "The SJWO" (Social Justice World Order) is more obviously false, and has less, ah, implications that for example SJWs are being persecuted similarly to how the jews where (because you see, unlike "The NWO", actual people bear the consequences of those conspiracy theories). One might, of course, make the argument that SJWs are persecuted similarly, but they'd have to, you know, actually make it (instead of, as the fashion is nowadays, to argue that one could make that argument and move on from there, as if having 'proven' that such an argument is possible is the same as actually making it).

To speak for myself than, I'd say the fairest comparison for Descan's SJW friend is to compare them to McCarthy's socialist hunting: chasing a phantom enemy, attacking people innocent of that crime for merely appearing like one (or worse, attacking those whose crime was merely to be critical of the investigation itself), while achieving nothing. That's a comparison I'd buy. But Jews? Really? I mean I ain't going to boycott you or whatever for saying that. Man, you wanna say that, you do what you want to do. It's not a big deal. But it's a pretty meh-at-best comparison to me.
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Re: AmeriPol: Debt ceiling and Gov. Funding punted to mid-December!
« Reply #12329 on: September 09, 2017, 09:26:52 pm »

I believe the reference is to  conspiracy theories like "jews control hollywood" and such.  Which I've read on this very forum although its more popular in other spheres.  Not the holocaust.

But meh, I was responding casually to Descan and suddenly 7 giant replies and I'm on my phone, so I'm going to mosey on out as I haven't read this whole conversation and its already vague what the topic is.
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