DADoll: I know Leafsnail can't be scum.
Why not go whole hog and make your claim? Leafsnail claimed they were a kook earlier, there are only so many roles that'll either see through that or not be bothered by it.
4mask: hector's posts have been striking me as scummy since I read over the thread during N1, for largely similar reasons to the read I gave in #287. After spending much of D2 arguing with me about my case from D1, including FoSing over it towards day end, he's also dropped that line of enquiry altogether in favour of using doll's case instead. There's also the matter that I mentioned that he was misrepresenting what I had said when I posted at the start of D2, and he continued to do so until his last post during D2 when he said he'd actually worded it wrongly and I should apparently have assumed that was what had happened from the beginning.
"much of day 2" compromising all of 2 posts,
this, which was directed at a lot of people, and
this which happened after the RattyB revelation, which was directed at someone I wanted some clarification from, and TDS, who made one contribution on D2.
Where am I only using doll's case? I said I agreed with him, but also said I wasn't particularly pleased with your lack of movement on TBF during D2.
Who's misrepresenting whom, again?
Maintaining is not actively pushing for lynching someone, which is why I pushed you about your reasoning behind TBF's scumminess.
No it isn't. Unless this is another one of those times where I'm supposed to assume that's what you were trying to do but just happened to never bring it up while discussing it?
You re-voted TBF with your first post of D2, said "still scum" and moved on. Why were you not trying to encourage people to vote for him, since your read persisted through the night?
My case was already laid out on him, the details hadn't changed. Did you want me to go door to door handing out flyers?
Would you like some cheese with that whine?
This one's on you, methinks. I used the word "actively", which means actually doing something as opposed to going "okay my opinion from D1 hasn't changed, cool cool *vote*"
So yeah, go door to door handing out fliers, get a megaphone and shout it from the rooftops, accost people in the street and scream in their faces that TBF should be hanged by the neck 'til he's dead.
You were very sure of TBF's anti-townness on D1 and the start of D2, so why not pull out all the stops for someone you think isn't town?
What's to respond to?
The post is, in order of paragraphs: your opinion on third parties + maintaining your case; maintaining your case x 2; conflating experience with ability; maintaining your case and forgetting my position is "it's TBF's meta"; asking my opinion on a related topic.
Since your case was TBF was anti-town, and I said that's his meta, I didn't particularly think a long argument - the essence of which I anticipated as "I'm right, your wrong" on both our parts - would be particularly fruitful.
So you were willing to keep that argument going for all of day 2 and were suspicious enough of me for points that I had already brought up in previous posts to FoS me over it, but saw nothing worth carrying over?
You're also skipping several parts of the post. The part where I pointed out that you were pushing me about mentioning third parties while ignoring literally everyone else doing so as well, for example.
Who is "literally everyone else" and where did they mention third parties? You mentioned doll earlier in regards to this, I'm reasonably sure. Was there anyone else?
4mask is probably town. TDS is probably town. Persus isn't scum.
I'm interested in your reasoning behind these, since you've never mentioned them before.
4mask and TDS boil down to gut feeling, really, hence "probably". 4mask has asked people to clarify their positions on their cases, and hasn't really gone after any easy lynches (like doll on D1) and TDS made a claim which could potentially clear two players, though is slow about getting to the clearing part.
Tiruin said Shakerag said
he said she said Persus had a "survive" goal. This means he's an Enchanter, Survivor, or a VT.
As far as I can tell, only the Exterminator has a natural mind-shield, meaning they would be the only role that would have a "survive" goal of the explicitly antagonistic alignments from a telepath's investigation.
The only role of those that could be scum is Enchanter, though I feel it's unlikely there's a second one in the game. Not impossible, obviously, but 1 in 3 odds regardless. 1 in 4 if you count the Exty, but that seems like a shaky one. Perhaps I should downgrade it to "probably not scum", anyway.
dollGiven that the two observant guards can protect each other so they don't provide safe kill targets to scum, and the profusion of observant guards stops scum from easily picking off outed town PR's, is there any reason why I shouldn't out the other observant guard (TDS's human) right now?
I can't actually think of one, but I'll check just in case I'm missing something.
It certainly would simplify the daygame.
I'm going to say you shouldn't. No reason to give scum more information than they already have.
Should the guards really be guarding each other anyway? Seems a bit pointless shifting the kill from one of them to the other, even if they do pass on the information about who killed them.