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[E. Albright]

To clarify, we have a cluster of three of us with two provinces between our capitals. It's... cozy. Very cozy. Possibly too cozy. We can probably survive, but seriously, this is slightly ridiculous. Especially since I suspect that I'm also two provinces from a third nation in the other direction.

We've had a slow start, so I'll understand if people want to stick with what we have and press on. But I'd say that it does at a minimum seem worth discussing, because from where I'm sitting it feels like there's barely hand room, to say nothing of elbows.

[USEC_OFFICER]

Since the slow start was mostly due to technical issues I feel like we could restart with no difficulties or significant time loss. The pretenders are already made so resubmitting them wouldn't take any longer than a regular turn. As such I strongly feel like we should restart so that capital placement doesn't screw over any players. It'd be more fun for everyone in the long run, I think, instead of people getting steamrolled by some nation with the resources of 4~ capitals at their disposal.

[a1s]

Since the slow start was mostly due to technical issues

Was it? If I understand correctly it was entirely a series of human errors (mine included.) But I have no specific attachment to this map, so if changing would lead to a better experience, why not?

[kingkev]

If you guys want to restart that's ok with me

[chaoticag]

I'll abstain from voting. Either way works out for me, it's just a matter of whether I wanna be lazy or not.

[Mini]

I'm fine either way.

[ThtblovesDF]

Eh, sure - the only soft issue is people may have already gained knowledge, others may not have. I want to continue as it is simpler, but really it's E. Albrights call.

[AlStar]

Although it definitely seems like close quarters on the current map, I'm willing to go with either decision.

[E. Albright]

That's close enough to everyone. I'll, ah, find us something slightly larger and/or less densely connected and get it set up tonight.

If anyone wants to get a feel for the corner of the torus that had RexMundi, USEC_OFFICER, and me concerned about placement, I started in 106, RexMundi in 125, and USEC_OFFICER in 85. Based on candles, I'm pretty sure someone else was in 96, 105, or 113. I don't know if the rest of you were comparably tight-packed, but that felt like a bit too many capitals 2-ish provinces from each other.

[a1s]

Eh, sure - the only soft issue is people may have already gained knowledge, others may not have.

Well no necesarily, because, if you want a new pretender, now's your chance, and if you don't- you already have one. So maybe that knowledge you got is dead wrong. 

[chaoticag]

I seemed to have about 3 provinces between me and the next person I ran into, but I also managed to neighbor uh, 3 throne provinces. Anyway, do we have any map suggestions?

[E. Albright]

I went with Ragnarok Comes, albeit with slightly-more-aggressive nostarts. 153+28, EW wrap.

The contents of the modified map file (.map, not .tga) can be found at http://pastebin.com/uVdzb6AC ; IIRC you don't actually need them so long as you have the .tga in your map directory, though.

Game is at: http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Bay12GamesRound426a

[AlStar]

Pretender re-sent.

Interesting - I wasn't even in the main crush - I was at 26 and had Ukubabbum's capital at 18.

[USEC_OFFICER]

That pastebin doesn't link to anything so... Hopefully it's not needed as you've mentioned. Anyways. Pretender sent. Let's hope that this one turns out better than the last map.

[chaoticag]

Oh right, figure I should mention that I resubmitted my pretender.