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Re: DIG OOC
« Reply #555 on: March 04, 2017, 03:51:22 pm »

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Because you can't do it directly with the bead chain or anything. You have to manipulate the world to do damage.
Aka have to do something in the real world and not through the deep, which this action should be (trying to physically detach one of the balls). Remember, I can't really do things a regular person (that, granted, could fly) can't do on this level, so no random spouts of intense water or airbending unless I dive deeper.
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« Reply #556 on: March 04, 2017, 09:08:28 pm »

you're in the deep. You can't physically grab anything, mr. comatrance. Are you throwing your spirit body at it then? I thought that was a Bad IdeaTM?

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« Reply #557 on: March 05, 2017, 05:57:50 am »

you're in the deep. You can't physically grab anything, mr. comatrance. Are you throwing your spirit body at it then? I thought that was a Bad IdeaTM?
I'm on lvl. 3 which grants me the following abilities:
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Level 3: Manipulation of local material in a way that resembles mundane. Ie, you can go and psychically move or do things that you could normally do with your body.

What you suggested would require at least lvl. 4:
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Level 4: Local Control. Manipulate matter.

Why would it be such a "Bad Idea" exactly (apart from general 'engaging with angry spirit constructs is bad for your health') to spirit walk over and try to attack it?
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« Reply #558 on: March 05, 2017, 11:08:39 am »

Well, for the same reason it would be a bad idea for a physical being to walk up to a Bull and try to yank off one of their testicles.

Let me get this straight though. On level three, youcan do anything that a mundane can do on the mundane plane. With the added benefit of being able to fly, pass through stone, breath underwater, and so forth. and the down side is? If you die, we mundanes get attacked by monsters.

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« Reply #559 on: March 05, 2017, 11:11:11 am »

I'd try forming an edge or something at 3, on the off-chance, but it looks like this might work.
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« Reply #560 on: March 05, 2017, 12:33:29 pm »

I'm pretty sure that heavy thing (or the chests) may be good enough to contain things or be made of strong stuff.  I'm thinking of taking a wall section out so we could just sling boxes back to the bore, instead of moving them over the hole.
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« Reply #561 on: March 05, 2017, 12:50:23 pm »

Definitely grab the corpses too.
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« Reply #562 on: March 05, 2017, 01:26:38 pm »

Well, for the same reason it would be a bad idea for a physical being to walk up to a Bull and try to yank off one of their testicles.
Let me get this straight though. On level three, youcan do anything that a mundane can do on the mundane plane. With the added benefit of being able to fly, pass through stone, breath underwater, and so forth. and the down side is? If you die, we mundanes get attacked by monsters.
Well yeah, in general monsters don't appreciate it when you try to forcefully separate their balls, but that also counts for any of you shooting or stabbing it (as difficult as the latter might be). Nobody else seems very eager to engage it, but I doubt it'll be content just hanging around in the air to chill out and not bother us.

If anything, the fact that I cannot touch it in the deep might indicate it also can't hurt me back in this state, so with some heaps of luck I'll get in a few hits unopposed.

I'd try forming an edge or something at 3, on the off-chance, but it looks like this might work.
What do you mean exactly by 'forming an edge'? Grab something sharp to stab it?

I'm pretty sure that heavy thing (or the chests) may be good enough to contain things or be made of strong stuff.  I'm thinking of taking a wall section out so we could just sling boxes back to the bore, instead of moving them over the hole.
You could use the diving bell to gather large pieces of loot in and bring it up. Slinging things into the bore might be difficult given it's still at the top of the cave.
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« Reply #563 on: March 05, 2017, 02:00:04 pm »

I meant an abstract edge rather than any object, but that probably isn't possible. Bits of glass, maybe? If you could throw lots of them at once?
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« Reply #564 on: March 06, 2017, 12:55:41 am »

Well, for the same reason it would be a bad idea for a physical being to walk up to a Bull and try to yank off one of their testicles.
Let me get this straight though. On level three, youcan do anything that a mundane can do on the mundane plane. With the added benefit of being able to fly, pass through stone, breath underwater, and so forth. and the down side is? If you die, we mundanes get attacked by monsters.
Well yeah, in general monsters don't appreciate it when you try to forcefully separate their balls, but that also counts for any of you shooting or stabbing it (as difficult as the latter might be). Nobody else seems very eager to engage it, but I doubt it'll be content just hanging around in the air to chill out and not bother us.

If anything, the fact that I cannot touch it in the deep might indicate it also can't hurt me back in this state, so with some heaps of luck I'll get in a few hits unopposed.
Good luck, either way.

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« Reply #565 on: March 06, 2017, 09:51:14 am »

Well, that explains why I thought I saw a glimmer of similarity to Revolver when I was reading Dig's rules.
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« Reply #566 on: March 06, 2017, 02:19:11 pm »

Alright, let me explain this stuff a little better.

Level 3 means you can interact with the world in a physical way while level 4 lets you mess with the material itself. So lets give it as an example: Trying to make a stone statue of yourself.

On level 3 you could do it by cracking off pieces of stone, carefully smoothing things and similar actions that can be done by human hands or tools.

On level 4 you could cause the rock to reform itself and take the shape of a statue.

So its more that on level 3 you can make jets of air or water, or drop rocks, but you couldn't, say change the state of the water or concentrate the air into a dangerous needle sharp stream. You'd basically just be throwing water or causing a strong wind.

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« Reply #567 on: March 06, 2017, 02:30:52 pm »

I can understand how a human would throw some water (though I doubt you can get much beyond splashing some water) but you'll have to explain to me how you'd start causing 'a strong wind' to appear as a regular human. Are beans enchiladas involved?  :P
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« Reply #568 on: March 06, 2017, 03:18:32 pm »

I can understand how a human would throw some water (though I doubt you can get much beyond splashing some water) but you'll have to explain to me how you'd start causing 'a strong wind' to appear as a regular human. Are beans enchiladas involved?  :P
Or a fan. or waving your arms. Really, breaking a chunk of rock off the ceiling isn't something you do by hand either but you can do it with level 3. The point is that with level 3 you don't change the actual form of anything. You can knock chunks off or move it around but you can't change it from solid to liquid or manipulate the matter so that it forms shapes on its own rather than being shaped by your actions.

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« Reply #569 on: March 12, 2017, 01:02:51 am »

Good call, Egan.  Thanks
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